[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Re: Schmelzer evolved from name Schmalz?

lyduhett at sunflower.com lyduhett at sunflower.com
Sun Dec 5 21:10:17 PST 2004


Schmelzen and Schmalz share the same origin.  The one means to melt, smelt,
while the latter connotes the product or result of the melting/smelting.  The 
word. Schmalz, however, has become narrower in what it denotes.  It now means
pork or beef lard, melted butter, etc.

Lyle D. Hettinger

On 3 Dec 04, at 15:00, Ed S wrote:

Date sent:      	Fri, 03 Dec 2004 15:00:53 -0500
To:             	<ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
From:           	Ed S <esonnenburg at porchlight.ca>
Subject:        	Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Re: Schmelzer evolved from name
 	Schmalz?

> I don't think those two names of Schmalz and Schmelzer come from the same
> root.
> 
> Schmelzer comes from the word "schmelzen" which means "to smelt".
> The occupation of iron worker.  He probably made tools, railings or farm
> machinery.
> 
> The word Schmalz kind of turns my stomach because that is what as a kid we
> had on our sandwiches.  It was like having a pail of bacon fat after it
> hardens with a taste that was very similar.  It was smeared thick on
> bread.
> 
> I remember an old GR relative once watching me smear a thin layer of
> butter on my bread.  She took my bread and spread butter about a 1/4 inch
> thick.
> 
> When people were hungry having fat in food was important.  Now we look for
> foods with less fat.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 01:41 PM 03/12/04, you wrote:
> >Can you tell me if the Schmalz name evolved into the Schmelzer name? My
> >grandmother's maiden name was Schmeltzer or sometimes spelled Schmelzer.
> >Thank you.
> >
> >Gilda Patterson
> >Calgary, AB
> >Researching names: Purat/Porat; Schmeltzer/Schmelzer; Raminow/Ramin;
> >Haberkorn; Leschwitz; Ast; Nass; Polnau, Fenske, and Kelber.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
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> > >    1. Re: Schmaltz in Schwabia (Swabia) was: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia]
> > >       new  file (Howard Krushel)
> > >    2. Canadian Naturalization Databases (gpvjem)
> > >
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> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 08:30:21 -0700
> > > From: "Howard Krushel" <krushelh at telus.net>
> > > Subject: Re: Schmaltz in Schwabia (Swabia) was: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia]
> > > new  file To: "Reiner Kerp" <mail at reiner-kerp.de>, "S G G E E"
> > > <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org> Message-ID:
> > > <000501c4d883$d63799e0$6500a8c0 at howardkrushel> Content-Type:
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> > > For those with relatives originating from the South-west region of
> > > Germany (settlers generally known as Schwaben who spoke a Schwaebisch
> > > dialect) are fortunate in that there was a substantial amount of good
> > > literature about this group. Just to mention a few authors, Max
> > > Miller, Otto Heike, Erich Weise, Werner Hacker, etc. All of these
> > > published extensive lists of settlers and usually, where they came and
> > > where they settled. Weise lists the S.W. German settlers who were
> > > recruited from 1799 to 1804 and moved to present day Poland, by an
> > > agent known as "von Nothardt". In his book, a Christian Schmalz, with
> > > a family of 5, is listed as coming from Wuerttemberg and settles in
> > > Springberg by Gross-Gollo, Amt
> >Klecko(Kreis
> > > Gnesen, south east of Wongrowitz).
> > > Howard Krushel
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Reiner Kerp" <mail at reiner-kerp.de>
> > > To: "S G G E E" <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:52 AM
> > > Subject: Schmaltz in Schwabia (Swabia) was: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] new
> > > file
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dear fellow searchers,
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:09:58 -0600
> > > From: gpvjem <gpvjem at sasktel.net>
> > > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Canadian Naturalization Databases
> > > To: Ger-Poland-Volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > > Message-ID: <004601c4d889$5f0e0510$b76f0b45 at Marsh>
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> > >
> > >   a..
> > >
> > >   b.. The  following is an excerpt from the most recent Legacy
> > >   newsletter
> >which may be of interest to members of the Listserve.
> > >
> > > John Marsch
> > >
> > > ----------------------------
> > >
> > >   a.. Canadian Naturalization Databases Online, 1915-1932
> > >
> > >   The Canadian Naturalization databases at the National Archives of
> > >   Canada
> >contain references to about 200,000 people who applied for and received
> >status as naturalized Canadians from 1915 to 1932. During that period,
> >the Government of Canada published the lists of names of those
> >naturalized subjects in the annual reports of the Secretary of State
> >(Sessional Papers) and in the Canada Gazette. These two databases,
> >produced by the Jewish Genealogical Societies of Montreal and Ottawa,
> >make it possible to search those annual lists by name.
> > >
> > >   In 1901, there were 5.3 million Canadians, of which only one in 20
> > >   were
> >not "British-born," a term that was used for Canada, England and other
> >countries of the British Commonwealth. By 1911, due to a wave of
> >immigration from continental Europe and the United States, one in 10
> >Canadian residents were from non-Commonwealth countries.
> > >
> > >   Many of these non-British immigrants did not speak English, and
> > >   often
> >had names that English speaking people had never before encountered. As
> >well, they often had no firm plans as to where they would make their new
> >homes in Canada. These factors pose major problems for today's
> >genealogical researchers trying to trace the movements of their direct
> >ancestors and other relatives. We may know whence they came, but it's not
> >always known what names they used, and where they went.
> > >
> > >   These searchable online databases are one of the few Canadian
> >genealogical resources specifically designed to benefit those researchers
> >with roots outside of the British Commonwealth. References located in the
> >databases can be used to request copies of the actual naturalization
> >records, which are held by Citizenship and Immigration Canada.
> > >   Please point your browsers to:
> >http://www.genealogie.gc.ca/06/0603_e.html.
> > >
> > >
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