[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] BERLIN ARCHIVES LETTER TRANSLATED

[margaret]

I had a similar experience.  I was researching my mother's birth.  She was 
born in 1889 in Hungary.  However when I finally got a copy of her birth 
certificate it was in Romanian.  The area she was born is now Romania, 
however we have since had research done and the original records are
in Hungarian but since it is now Romania that's what language the paper was 
written in.   I was disappointed but
at least I got a copy of her birth what ever language it was written in. 
Margaret



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Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] BERLIN ARCHIVES LETTER TRANSLATED


>
> We ordered some birth records (for my great-grandparents - born in 1881 
> and
> 1885 respectively) from the Polish archives many years ago .  Although the
> original records were written in Russian (we have since seen a microfilm 
> of the
> original records), the certificates that they sent us were on a printed 
> form
> in  Polish.  I think what they're saying is that the copies that they 
> provide
> would be in Polish.  The Polish archives have a very strong bias towards 
> the
> Polish language. :-(
>
> I would hazard a strong opinion that the original is most probably in
> Russian, but they will most probably not provide a photocopy of the 
> orginal.
> Rather, they will provide a transcript of the record, and that  transcript 
> will be
> in Polish on a pre-printed form.
>
> Take care,
>
>    -Paul
>
>
>
> In a message dated 8/1/2005 9:38:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> maurmike at bellatlantic.net writes:
>
> I sent  an email to the archivist requesting copies of the originals.
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Frank  [mailto:FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 11:54  AM
> To: Michael & Maureen McHenry;  ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Subject: RE: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia]  BERLIN ARCHIVES LETTER TRANSLATED
> Importance: High
>
> I would doubt  that they made such an exception but I suppose that
> anything is  possible.  It is also possible that there was a duplicate
> set of  books - one in Russian for the government  (so far not found
> and not  filmed by the LDS) and another for the local church in German
> and/or  Polish.
>
> Only way to find out for sure is to order the copies of the  records.
>
>
>
>
> At 09:35 AM 01/08/2005, Michael & Maureen  McHenry wrote:
>>This is my point you would expect the records to be  Russian. However
> besides
>>the pre 1867 films and confirmation records  I don't think the Mormons 
>>have
>>any post 1867 BMD for Lipno. Is it  possible the Russians made an 
>>exception
>>for  Lipno?
>>
>>                 Mike
>>
>>-----Original  Message-----
>>From:  ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org
>>[mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org]  On Behalf Of Jerry
>>Frank
>>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 10:59  AM
>>To: Michael & Maureen McHenry;  ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
>>Subject: Re:  [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] BERLIN ARCHIVES LETTER TRANSLATED
>>Importance:  High
>>
>>At 02:31 PM 30/07/2005, Michael & Maureen McHenry  wrote:
>> >Richard Benert and Henry Brodersen were both kind enough to  do
>>translations.
>> >Below is the pertinent excerpt. Note that  the last paragraph says the
>> >entries would be Polish. How could  this be? Is she mistaken? Marianne
>>Manzei
>> >appears in the  confirmation records-1904.
>> >
>> >
>> >In the  baptismal book of the Evangelical-Augsburg Church of Lipno  that
> lies
>> >before us, we have found the 1883 baptismal entry for  Auguste Manzei.
>> >Father:  Ferdinand Manzei
>> >Mother:  Rosalie, born Briese
>> >
>> >In the year 1886 is found an  entry for Emil Manzei.
>> >Father: Ferdinand Manzei
>>  >Mother:  Eva, born Pankratz
>> >
>> >In the year 1889  there is an entry for Marianne Manzei.
>> >Father: Ferdinand  Manzei
>> >Mother:  Ludowika, born Krueger
>> >
>>  >Upon request (and a charge would apply) we would send you a copy of 
>> these
>> >entries. However, they would be in the Polish language and  our office
> does
>> >not accept requests for translations.
>>  >
>> >With friendly greetings,
>> >Christine Hinz
>>  >
>> >                 Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>Births, marriages, and  deaths were recorded in the church books on
>>behalf of the government so  they are in the official language of the
>>country.  Confirmations  are solely a church rite and therefore are
>>recorded in German, the  language of the church.
>>
>>I am confused about the reference to  the records being in Polish.  I
>>would expect them to be in Russian  as it was enforced as the official
>>language in  1867.
>>
>>
>>
>>Jerry Frank - Calgary,  Alberta
>>FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca
>>
>>
>>
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> Jerry Frank - Calgary,  Alberta
> FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca
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