[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Search for Family Nobility Lineage - Ramin

Fri Jan 14 09:16:09 PST 2005

oops...corrected typos...thank you. :)
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gilda J. Patterson" <gilda.patterson at shaw.ca>
To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: Search for Family Nobility Lineage - Ramin

I'm not sure what this means:

 > Hi,
 > further to my answer about the Handbuch des Adels and the Ramin last
name,
 > the Deutsche Geschlechterbuch is a huge collections of names, lots of
 > generations. If you use an online translator, like Babelfish, you will
get
 > the completely wrong answer!
 > Ines

 I was hoping with some discretion that someone would be able to assist me
with this...and upon receipt of this email, I still have no anweres. I was
hoping that you might ably look up this information, as you've suggested you
could, and give this information to me. I do not do research based on the
Babelfish translater.

Please forgive me for my lack of German. I only translated your assistance
via the Babelfish translater.

You come back with "...you will get the completely wrong answer"??

Okay...I accept that. But it does not help me.

I'm in the process of slowly learning German as my grandmother was
multilingual in eight languages, inclusive of German....but she is long
gone...passed away in 1971 or so.

I have since found much of the information I was seekng via the Cleveland
Public Library, and as I am a member of the Calgary Public Library, they are
offering me assistance via an Interlibrary loan, faxing me the pages of the
book I was seeking on the nobiliby of my family lineage name: Ramin.

Thank you once again Ines for your most kind patience in this...

G. Patterson
Calgary, AB
Canada
Researching Names: Purat/Porat; Schmeltzer/Schmelzer; Raminow/Ramin;
Haberkorn; Leschwitz; Ast; Nass; Polnau, Fenske, Kelber, & Giesser.
Name Places: Maszewo & Maszewo-Duze - Plock district, Rydzyno, & Ramin,
Germany.

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> > Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:50:53 -0700
> > From: "Gilda J. Patterson" <gilda.patterson at shaw.ca>
> > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Re: Deutsche Geschlechterbuch is a huge
> > collections of names
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> > Thanks Ines...can you please take a look for me in the Deutsche
> > Geschlechterbuch? Thank you immensely,
> >
> > Gilda
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> > >    1. Research on name - Ramin (Gilda J. Patterson)
> > >    2. Re: Research on name - Ramin (Ines Mannhardt)
> > >    3. German translations (Ines Mannhardt)
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> > > Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:38:34 -0700
> > > From: "Gilda J. Patterson" <gilda.patterson at shaw.ca>
> > > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Research on name - Ramin
> > > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
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> > > I've been doing my own Genealogical Research on the family name Ramin.
> And
> > > I've also located info on the Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels,
> > > Freiherrliche Hduser, Volume XVII, Publication Ref. 807 p.215.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have a copy of this volume or access to this?
> > >
> > > I am trying to find info on the RAMIN nobility, p.215 in the
> > Genealogisches
> > > Handbuch des Adels, Freiherrliche Hduser, Volume XVII, Publication
Ref.
> > 807.
> > >
> > > Thank you for your kind patience,
> > >
> > > Gilda J. Patterson
> > > Calgary, AB
> > > Canada
> > > Researching Names: Purat/Porat; Schmeltzer/Schmelzer; Raminow/Ramin;
> > > Haberkorn; Leschwitz; Ast; Nass; Polnau, Fenske, Kelber, & Giesser.
> > > Name Places: Maszewo & Maszewo-Duze - Plock district, Rydzyno, &
Ramin,
> > > Germany.
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:05:56 -0700
> > > From: Ines Mannhardt <Ines.Mannhardt at telus.net>
> > > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Research on name - Ramin
> > > To: "Gilda J. Patterson" <gilda.patterson at shaw.ca>,
> > > ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > > Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050112110019.033fe370 at pop.telus.net>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii
> > >
> > > Hi Gilda,
> > > I don't have the Handbuch des Adels but I have some copies of the
> Deutsche
> > > Geschlechterbuch, all the ones that are on CD already. I can check
there
> > > for your Ramins, if you want me to.
> > > I have some Ramin in our family tree, not a lot. Here they are:
> > > Agnes Rotraud Oehring married Dieter Ramin in 1948. They had Gabriele
> > (born
> > > 1948), Angelika (b. 1951), Cornelia (b. 1962). Angelika married a Mr.
> > > Wright and their children are Ramin-Wright.
> > > Agnes Oehring is the grand daughter of Anna Louise Henriette Elisabeth
> van
> > > der Smissen. The Mannhardts are related to the van der Smissens.
> > > I have more information on all of the above, if you are interested.
> > > Ines who is not enjoying the weather in Calgary
> > >
> > >
> > > At 08:38 AM 1/12/2005 -0700, Gilda J. Patterson wrote:
> > >
> > > >I've been doing my own Genealogical Research on the family name
Ramin.
> > And
> > > >I've also located info on the Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels,
> > > >Freiherrliche Hduser, Volume XVII, Publication Ref. 807 p.215.
> > > >
> > > >Does anyone have a copy of this volume or access to this?
> > > >
> > > >I am trying to find info on the RAMIN nobility, p.215 in the
> > Genealogisches
> > > >Handbuch des Adels, Freiherrliche Hduser, Volume XVII, Publication
Ref.
> > 807.
> > > >
> > > >Thank you for your kind patience,
> > > >
> > > >Gilda J. Patterson
> > > >Calgary, AB
> > > >Canada
> > > >Researching Names: Purat/Porat; Schmeltzer/Schmelzer; Raminow/Ramin;
> > > >Haberkorn; Leschwitz; Ast; Nass; Polnau, Fenske, Kelber, & Giesser.
> > > >Name Places: Maszewo & Maszewo-Duze - Plock district, Rydzyno, &
Ramin,
> > > >Germany.
> > > >
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> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:08:21 -0700
> > > From: Ines Mannhardt <Ines.Mannhardt at telus.net>
> > > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] German translations
> > > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
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> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > further to my answer about the Handbuch des Adels and the Ramin last
> name,
> > > the Deutsche Geschlechterbuch is a huge collections of names, lots of
> > > generations. If you use an online translator, like Babelfish, you will
> get
> > > the completely wrong answer!
> > > Ines
> > >
> > >
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