[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Re: Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 20, Issue 20 - PEACH TREES in POLAND

Sat Jan 22 12:10:52 PST 2005

Hello,

Speaking of cultivating...my grandmother's land as a girl was said to have
Peach groves. She was born in Maszewo, Plock district, Poland in 1894. Is
this even a possibility? I've heard that they would be similar to our
Canadian winter pears, and not like the peaches in California. Does anyone
have any info on this topic for this area & this time period? Or can anyone
point me in the right direction for more research? My grandfather was said
to have been highly knowledgeable in the art of tree grafting. I know that
Peach trees are grafted to increase the population of growth. Thanks to all!

Best regards Everyone!

Gilda J. Patterson
Calgary, AB
CANADA
Researching Names: Purat/Porat; Schmeltzer/Schmelzer; Raminow/Ramin;
Haberkorn; Leschwitz; Ast; Nass; Polnau, Fenske, Kelber, & Giesser.
Places: Maszewo & Maszewo-Duze - Plock district, Rydzyno, & Ramin, Germany.

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>    1. sugar beet connection (richard benert)
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> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:30:59 -0700
> From: "richard benert" <benovich at imt.net>
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] sugar beet connection
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> A few months, ago, Royal Natzke asked whether Germans grew sugar beets in
> Russia.  I've just run into some information that doesn't answer that
question
> directly, but may be of minor interest anyway.  If not, please delete.
It's
> in a book by one George Pavlovsky, "Agricultural Russia on the Eve of the
> Revolution" (1968).  He mentions that the beets were introduced to Russia
in
> the provinces of Tula and Orel in the early 1800s.  One of the pioneers
was
> Count Bobrinski, who, after trying it on his Tula estate, discovered the
> warmer climes of Ukraine were better, so he started growing them on his
estate
> (how nice to have several!) in Kiev province.  From here, Pavlovsky says,
> sugar beet growing spread over Ukraine and the southwest provinces.  So
much
> sugar was produced (it was grown mostly by large landowners) that prices
fell
> in the 1880s, leading to attempts to control output and home marketing.
This
> was done by the Ministry of Finance in 1895 (central planning wasn't new
to
> Russia in 1917!).  With restrictions on marketing at home, Russian growers
> exported in great quantity until, in 1902, the Brits, facing a collapse of
> prices in the West Indian sugar cane trade, called a Sugar Convention in
> Brussels that effectively put heavy restrictions on the export of Russian
> sugar to western markets.  Russia simply exported more to eastern markets
and
> Finland, and, of course, prices in England went up until England cried
Uncle
> and allowed Russian sugar again in western markets in 1907.  So now you
know
> more than you wanted to about that!
>
> Before the war, Pavlovsky says, about 80% of Russia's sugar beets were
grown
> in Kiev and Podolia provinces (Volhynia is not mentioned, but it's right
> next-door to Podolia), and in central Ukraine.    The rest was produced in
the
> "Central Agricultural Region", reaching as far east as Voronezh and Tambov
> (not to the Volga).  Smaller amounts began to be grown in Cherson and the
> Kuban (maybe by some Germans?).  After about 1900, peasants began to grow
> sugar beets.  Whether any German farmers grew sugar beets is, of course,
not
> mentioned.  It seems possible, though, that the large German farms in
South
> Russia might have gone into it.  Regarding Volhynia, I can only report
that
> Jvrg Wiesner's 1980 dissertation on "The Social and Economic Condition of
> German Farmers in Volhynia, 1919-1939" does indicate that sugar beets were
> grown in Polish Volhynia between the wars.
>
> Dick Benert
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:57:07 -0500
> From: "margaret" <pillango at nwonline.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Re:  September 31 ????
> To: <rradke at telus.net>, "Mail List"
> <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>, "Gary Warner"
> <gary at warnerengineering.com>
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> Gary, What a wonderful way to put it!!!
>                                Pilla
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gary Warner" <gary at warnerengineering.com>
> To: <rradke at telus.net>; "Mail List"
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> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 6:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Re: September 31 ????
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>
> >I think that there is someone on this list who knows everything there is
to
> >know.  That someone may not be the same person all the time, but
> >nevertheless, impressive.
> >
> > Gary Warner
> > Gig Harbor, WA
> >
> >
> > At 03:31 PM 1/20/2005, Robert Radke wrote:
> >>This doesn't answer the original question, but perhaps some folk will be
> >>interested.
> >>
> >>The reason that the Gregorian calendar falls one day further behind the
> >>Julian
> >>calendar each century is because the Gregorian calendar omits leap years
> >>in
> >>years divisible by 100, but the Julian calendar does not.  Thus, once
> >>every
> >>100 years, the Julian calendar has one extra day.
> >>
> >>There is one exception to this rule, and it happened in recent memory.
In
> >>years divisible by 400, the Gregorian calendar keeps its leap year.  So
in
> >>the year 2000 just past, both calendars had a leap year.  The two
> >>calendars
> >>thus continue to differ by just 13 days even though we're in a new
> >>century.
> >>
> >>So for our Orthodox friends who have just finished celebrating Christmas
> >>according to the Julian calendar, the date of Christmas didn't shift by
> >>one
> >>day this century as it did at the turn of the last century.
> >>
> >>--Bob Radke
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:14:15 -0800
> From: Gary Warner <gary at warnerengineering.com>
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] SGGEE server will be shut down for
> about 2 hours
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
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> To all,
>
> Sorry for the inconvenience but sometime tonight the SGGEE server will be
> shut down for about two hours while we upload some new software and
> configure it.
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> Gary Warner
> SGGEE
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:33:13 -0800
> From: Gary Warner <gary at warnerengineering.com>
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] SGGEE Server is back up
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
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> To all,
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> Sorry for the inconvenience, but the server is back up and running.  A
> false promise that the upgrade was being made now.  There should be no
> differences in the way the system operates, as there were no changes made
> at this time.
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> Gary Warner
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