[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Migrations of people--Camps run by Allies ?

Nelson Itterman colnels at telus.net
Sat Apr 22 20:50:18 PDT 2006

Yes, Nancy, you are right. I did mean Allies. As a Canadian, I served under
Monty, because he was in charge of that part of the front..




From: Nancy Gertner [mailto:nancygertner at mac.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 9:33 PM
To: Nelson Itterman
Cc: SGGEE Messages
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Migrations of people--Camps run by Allies


Nelson, I wonder if you meant to say Allies instead of NATO, since the North
Atlantic Treaty Organization was formally established in 1949. I don't think
NATO ever controlled camps for refugees or displaced persons.

Reference: http://www.nato.int/docu/update/45-49/1949e.htm


"February 1945. After six years of fighting and destruction, the Second
World War is coming to an end. The future of Europe will be determined by
the outcome of the Yalta Conference, which brings together US President
Franklin Roosevelt, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and Soviet
leader Joseph Stalin. Agreements are reached on such major issues as the
creation of a United Nations Organisation, the post-war administration of
Germany, new frontiers for Poland, and a commitment to the establishment of
democratic governments in all liberated countries.

But there are already signs that cooperation forged in time of war between
the Western democracies and the Soviet Union is coming under strain.
Negotiations designed to broaden the provisional Polish Government quickly
become stalled and so Poland is not represented when the UN Charter is
signed in June 1945.

March 1946. Winston Churchill warns in Fulton, Missouri, that "From Stettin
in the Baltic to Trieste in the Adriatic, an Iron Curtain has descended
across the Continent." A year later, attempts by the American, British and
Soviet Foreign Ministers, meeting in Moscow, to draw up peace treaties for
Germany and Austria end in failure. To all intents and purposes, the
war-time cooperation has collapsed."


On Apr 22, 2006, at 5:32 PM, Nelson Itterman wrote:

This discussion has turned from Migration of people - Germans to Volhynia =

to = Migration of people - Germans to the West - Germany - Canada etc. 

It was obvious why they wanted out of Russia. They had survived Stalin's

forced famine, Communist Controlled Collective Farms where starvation was

very real.

Karl Krueger was interested in reasons for people to escape Communist

Controlled Germany and found that even though they had escaped into NATO

controlled territory they were still not safe. I'm told that General

Eisenhower took the view that a german was a german even if they were

refugees out of Russia. When the Russians reviewed the list of people in US

NATO controlled camps, these refugees from Russia were turned over without

question. These refugees went straight to Siberia. (I know of 4 direct

relatives (families) that faced this ordeal) I'm also told that in British

controlled camps, the refugees were asked if they wanted to be returned

before they were turned over.


This should keep the discussion going some more.



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