[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Julian and Gregorian Dates in Lipno

[gpvjem]

    It sure is easier to read as 16 Aug 2006 without a momentary pause to remember what sequence the last 4 numbers are in.
I note my personal bank cheques now require me to enter DD/MM/YYYY, the exact reverse of the International Standards Assoc.   So much for standardization.  8>)

John Marsch

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  It may be easier to solve the problem if every one type the month in 
  abbreciated form instead of using a number, no matter what order we use or 
  what genealogy program we use.   :-)

  Rose Ingram
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  From: "Earl.Schultz" <Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:30 PM

  >
  > Gary & Others,
  >
  > You made an interesting comment with respect to writing dates as 
  > 12/06/1900
  > and I'm surprised we haven't resolved this matter once and for all.  The
  > International Standards Association (or whatever they are called) has
  > accepted the format YYYY/MM/DD or 1900/06/12 (1900 June 12).  Years ago as 
  > a
  > member of the Ontario Genealogical Society I participated in a survey that
  > resulted in them deciding to write all dates as YYYY/MM/DD.  I believe 
  > that
  > Salt Lake City has also accepted that format.  It does not lead to
  > misunderstandings (or at least much less chance) and all other time is
  > written from largest to smallest as in HH:MM:SS (hours/minutes/seconds). 
  > It
  > is about time all genealogists adopt this format for the sake of accuracy.
  >
  > Earl Schultz
  >
  > Message: 5
  > Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:49:54 -0700
  > From: Gary Warner <gary at warnerengineering.com>
  > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Julian and Gregorian Dates in Lipno
  > Records
  > To: "LMPauling" <lmpauling at utech.net>, "SGGEE Mailing List"
  > <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
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  > Linda,
  >
  > I am certainly no expert on the use of the two
  > calendars, but I will take a stab at it.
  >
  > First, there is a nifty calendar converter at
  > http://www.calendarhome.com/converter/
  >
  > For those of you not familiar with the two
  > calendars, there are also written discussions on
  > the two calendars at a number of places,
  > including
  > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar
  > The Russians continued to use the old calendar until after World War I.
  >
  > Second, my guess is that in the early 1800s in
  > Poland that the date being used was the old
  > Julian calendar, but I do not know for certain,
  > since most of the rest of Europe had already
  > changed to the modern Gregorian calendar by that
  > time.    Do you have records where the same
  > pastor suddenly changed from using both dates to
  > only a single date?   If so, you may be able to
  > determine which calendar he was using at that
  > time if the next entry was less than two weeks later.
  >
  > Finally, why are you supposing that you need
  > anyone's permission to record a date based on
  > either calendar?    Yes, we would like to get all
  > of the dates based on the same calendar, but I
  > have no idea which calendar anyone is using when
  > they give SGGEE data.    The only dates that I am
  > pretty sure are correct are those where they
  > provide both dates for the event.    Not all
  > family history programs will do that,
  > however.      I believe that most people are
  > using the Gregorian date when submitting data,
  > but that is only a guess until I see that date
  > conflict with a date submitted by someone else.
  >
  > One last thing, and not directly related to your
  > questions Linda.   I am seeing some date
  > conflicts in the data submitted by members.    It
  > is very apparent that some of you, who shall
  > remain unnamed, are taking notes in short hand
  > when copying dates from other records.    Those
  > unnamed people are obviously making hand written
  > notes that say something like 12/06/1900.   The
  > problem is that this date can mean two different
  > dates, depending on which part of the world you
  > live in.    In some parts of the world, the above
  > date is December 6, 1900, and in other places the
  > date is June 12, 1900.    NEVER, NEVER, NEVER use
  > such short hand notations.   If you do, your data
  > entry will likely be incorrect.
  >
  > Gary Warner
  >
  >
  >
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