[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Passports or Identity Papers

[rlyster at telusplanet.net]

Or was there a different spelling....we have the name Liss in Barrhead.  Maybe 
it was entered as Fred Liss?

Rita


Quoting Gary Warner <gary at warnerengineering.com>:

> Virginia,
> 
> Even though some of the facts related to the Friedrich Less that 
> Guenther found do not match yours, do not be too quick to set it 
> aside.   Less is a fairly unusual surname, so it may be worth 
> figuring out where the Friedrich that Gunther found ended up before 
> you totally discount him.   People often had ulterior motives for 
> telling the officials that they were a different age than they really 
> were.   For instance, would a immigration official look at a 19 year 
> old and say he was too young to enter without family?   Did you find 
> both Friedrich Less in the 1910 census?   If you do, then you are 
> correct in not accepting him as your Friedrich, but if there is only 
> one, then more research may reveal that he really is yours.
> 
> Gary Warner
> 
> At 04:09 PM 11/21/06, GVLESS at aol.com wrote:
> >Freidrich Less' naturalization papers provide this info:  Dated 3  April
> >1909, Alpena, Michigan:
> >.....imigrated to the U.S. from Hamburg, Germany on or about 25 day of May
> >1902 and arrived at port of New York in the United States on the vessel
> >Bataviga....."  With the naturalization papers being filled out 6 
> >years  after Less
> >arrived here he may have forgotten some of the facts he supplied for  this
> >paper.  The ship itself I have not been able to find one with 
> >this  name at least
> >in the Ellis Island records.  I have checked Ancestry this  week on their
> >free opportunity and they said there was no records for 
> >this  Freidrich Less, age
> >19, arriving in 1903.  So - where do I go from  here?
> >
> >The Freidrich Less you found Gunether as coming into Maryland at age 26 can
> >not be the right one.  We do have proof of Freidrich Less' birth 
> >year at  1884
> >from his Confirmation paper.
> >That would definitely make him age 19 when immigrating.  Besides if he  was
> >trying to move from having to deal with the Russian Army it seems 
> >age 19  would
> >have been the right time to get out.  He was younger than his  brother,
> >Erdmann, who was in the military and immigrated the year before 
> >in  1902.  Both of
> >them lived in Alpena, Michigan for a few years when they  first came to the
> >USA and worked as lumberjacks there.
> >
> >Thanks for all of you trying to help me on this.  If anyone has any  ideas
> >what to do next in this research let me know.  What about going 
> >to  the Hamburg
> >records?  Does anyone have any success from those?
> >
> >Virginia Less
> >
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