[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] MANTEI / MANTEY / MANTAI

[Helen Gillespie]

Hello,

I can add another Mantai to the ring although not
related directly to me.

My grandmother, Alwine (Baier)Bethke's paternal
grandparents - Daniel Baier and Karoline Schmidt(ke)-
joined their two sons, Adolf and Julius, in Benton
Harbor, MI area ca. 1903.  Their son, Adolf Baier was
married to Karoline Brenner and her mother was Pauline
Mantai.  Karoline Brenner's parents, Ferdinand and
Pauline (Mantai) Brenner did not go to America.  They
remained in Wolhynia, survived the deportation to
Siberia and return, but Pauline died in 1940, at age
73 (born in 1867), apparently during the "flight from
Russia" - which I understood to mean during the time
Germans were resettled to Warthegau. Ferdinand
apparently lived a few more years, but died in 1944.

A descendant of Julius Baiers (the family added an S
to their last name at some point)provided me with this
information.  Apparently a brother of Karoline
Brenner, Ewald Brenner, also went to the US and lived
and died in the Niles/Benton Harbor MI area.  

BTW, there was a football player named Al Brenner ca.
1970s who was related to this family.  Perhaps there
are still family members in the area. He was a CFL
allstar and played for Hamilton, Winnipeg and lastly
for Ottawa in 1977.  And then he disappeared.  It's
still a mystery.

Also the Social Security Death Index has a William and
Martha Mantai b. 1896 and 1900 also in Berrien County
(Watervliet is near Benton Harbor) but also a Samuel
Lachmann so expect  there was some family connection.

My great grandmother Auguste Schulz married several
times, first an August Bethke, then after his death in
1900, she married a Lachmann, who was a widower with
some grown children.  They went to the US and after my
ggm's death in 1919, I think he went as well.  Don't
know his first name. 

Helen

--- Kenneth Browne <kbrowne at alumni.umass.edu> wrote:

> Don Puffalt wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Changing the subject:  I have some dates and facts
> about various
> > Volhynians with the surname GRAMS. I have also
> gathered some dates
> > regarding the MANTEI / MANTEY / MANTAI family. I
> understand that MANTIK
> > is sometimes another variant----is anyone working
> on the MANTIK or MANTEK
> >   
> Hello (with an aside to Ansgar)
> 
> Yes, although I only recently learned of a Mantei
> connection to my gr 
> granduncle Andreas Lachmann whose wife was Lydia
> Mantei. I have both 
> Andreas and Lydia having been born in Vincentow,
> Volhynia. My great 
> grandfather, Samuel Lachmann was born in Rozhysche,
> which I believe is a 
> bit north of Lutsk (Luck?)
> 
> Andreas and his family emigrated and settled in
> Manitoba around 1907, 
> though it appears they attempted to move to
> Minnesota, USA about ten 
> years later but were "DEBARRED". Apparently U.S.
> immigration policy 
> tightened up the northern border as it had become an
> "end run" in the 
> eyes of U.S. Immigration. Apparently it was easier
> to get into Canada 
> back in 1907, and later move to the U.S. rather than
> gain U.S. 
> immigration upon arrival from Poland. In the
> intervening ten years the 
> U.S. policies changed and as far as I know my gr
> granduncle's family 
> never did move to the U.S. I do have a handwritten
> note that indicates, 
> for example, one daughter marrying in Calgary,
> Alberta in the early forties.
> 
> I learned of the Mantei connection at the Volhynia
> Forum 
> <http://forum.wolhynien.net/forum.php>, where I also
> made email contact 
> with Ansgar Mantey. We were able to share
> information both ways, though 
> I had to rely on Google translations to post in
> German on that site. 
> Ansgar is very helpful and you should be able to
> find some interesting 
> links based on the Lutsk connection.
> 
> Kenneth Browne researching:
> BROWN(E) LEIGHTON TAYLOR CLOUGH/CLUFF
> LACHMANN RUSSELL MORSE PETTENGILL
> NOBLE SMALL WOLF MROCH LUEDTKE...and now MANTEI
> 
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