Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Alexandrowka - AlwineMül ler b1875

[gpvjem]

  Season's greetings Maria;

    Further to Jerry's information;  Kiev St Petersburg records have recently been extracted and are now in the process of being proof read.  I have checked the original extractions and found nothing regarding Alwina Eleonore Mueller.
     However, Jerry's comment that Kiev records do have a certain degree of overlap with the Volhynian families should always be borne in mind when doing a search for hard to find ancestral records in Ukraine........just in case!

John Marsch
In also cold and snowy Saskatchewan

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Maria,

Greetings and Merry Christmas from not so warm 
Calgary, Alberta.  Unfortunately we cannot make 
your Christmas any merrier with good genealogical news.

The available evangelisch (= Lutheran) records 
for 1835-1885 have been fully extracted and are 
searchable at http://www.sggee.org/databases.html 
.  The originals can also be viewed online at 
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/#p=0 
(click Asia, then Russian Duplicate Church Books, then Volyn).

There is no match for either the date you 
mentioned nor the parents found by your 
researcher.  I looked for Mueller, Muller and 
Miller without luck.  I even looked through all 
the dates to see if I could find a close match 
for a Dec. 5, 1875 birth under a different name 
but came up blank.  Also couldn't find an Alwine 
born to a Johann or Caroline.  You should look at 
those original church books in case the 
extraction was missed.  You may also want to look 
at the Kiev records located there.  They have not 
yet been extracted and there is overlap between Kiev and Volhynia.

There can be several reasons for the bad luck 
associated with not finding the record.  Most of 
these records were originally written down by a 
Kantor in the village and then transcribed into 
the main church book by the pastor.  It is known 
from notes written by the pastor that some Kantor 
books were not kept very well.  This and other 
possible reasons for the entry being missed are 
some possibilities.  Another is that the death 
record contains inaccurate info.  My 
grandfather's death record here in Canada states 
his mother was Rosalia Solomka.  In fact, his 
mother was Christine Steinwand and he was born in 
Solomka.  So, it is possible that your 
grandmother was not born in Volhynia at all but 
perhaps somewhere else before the family migrated there.

Can you track down the names of other siblings 
that may have been born in Volhynia?  This may at 
least help us to locate the right family grouping.


Jerry Frank - Calgary, Alberta
FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca




At 03:04 AM 25/12/2008, Maria Mikolics wrote:
>Christmas Greetings to you all from warm & sunny Western Australia!
>
>Thanks so much to everyone who replied so quickly to my post.
>
>Unfortunately I have no confirmed information 
>regarding my great grandmother's parents. I did 
>receive some information from a researcher that 
>indicated her parents were Johann Johann & 
>Caroline Miller as per census record Horoshki 
>volost, Zhitomir Uezd 1897. However, I'm now not 
>so certain of this information as Alwine's age 
>at census would mean that she was born c1883 
>(assuming the information provided re age was 
>correct) - which is very different to the year given in her death record.
>
>According to her death record my great 
>grandmother's full name was Alwine Eleonore 
>Müller and she was born 5 December 1875. At this 
>stage I'm thinking I need to see if I can find a 
>record for an Alwine Müller born on this date 
>and take it from there. Also mentioned on her 
>death record is that she was evangelisch.
>
>
>Maria Mikolics
>Western Australia
>