[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Beginning in Volhynia
gary at warnerengineering.com
Mon Feb 11 08:53:27 PST 2008
Nelson and Hannes have provided you some clues to the possible identity
of your Samuel Werner, but you need to decide if this is the correct
Samuel, based on other information, since a name alone is not enough.
Have you found his death record? Or his naturalization record? Sounds
like you have not found his marriage record, and you may have difficulty
doing so, since it would appear that he was probably married in the
Ukraine about 1900. Is there a family bible?
Hannes Werner wrote:
> Hello Becca,
> referring to the remails of Nelson and Gary I'd like to do some correction:
> the exact name of the mother of Samuel WERNER was Louise KISSER (not
> "Kierer" - I think it was transcripted wrong from the original church
> I'm in contact with a descendant of this family. Unfortunately he has no
> clue who were the ancestors of
> Ferdinand and Louise and where they did come from.
> I'm a descendant of another WERNER-family in Volynia, but I suppose not far
> away from Ferdinand WERNERs line.
> As you will see in the Odessa library there are some more birth-entries with
> Ferdinand Werner and Luise KISSER at Helenow and Sadombrowka in Volynia.
> I'm searching this line myself and trying to trace their roots (e.g. Lublin
> area and around Lodz ).
> My best wishes
> Hannes WERNER
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Becca Rowley" <berrekah at byu.edu>
> To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 5:51 AM
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Beginning in Volhynia
>> I'm new to this list, and I subscribed after find some old posts about
>> people in Volhynia and that part of the world.
>> So - I have some problems, and I was wondering if anyone could help me.
>> not even sure if I'm in the right place of Europe with this list (I need
>> brush up on my European geography).
>> My great grandmother is Julianna Karras (Karas, maybe other spellings
>> She was born in Volhynia, and on the gedcom my family has, it says her
>> spouse Samuel Werner Jr. was born in Rovno, Volhynia. However, there is no
>> source as to that fact (given) and I have not been able to find him in the
>> St. Petersburg Archives (My father was raised Lutheran, and Julianna was
>> the archives, so I assumed that would be a natural place to search). His
>> birth year is given as 1879, which is at least mostly true, because ship
>> records of him immigrating to Canada (from Libau, to Halifax, NS on the SS
>> Czar) have him listed as 34 years old in 1913, so the date we think is
>> pretty accurate.
>> Well, the problem is that I cannot find any other record of him anywhere
>> to birth, marriage to Julianna, etc). It seems unlikely that he would have
>> been something other than Lutheran, married a Lutheran woman (but either
>> in Volhynia, or not as recorded by the Lutheran church) and then raised
>> family Lutheran. However, it is possible that he was not born in Volhynia,
>> and even that he married Julianna somewhere else. The other problem is
>> he died before many of his grandchildren were born (my father included)
>> all of his children are also deceased. So... unless I can find a
>> older obscure relative (and my father's family was never very close), I'm
>> my wits end as to how to find out about him - and if I can't find out
>> him, my hopes of finding out who his parents are are slim.
>> Anyone who can help me - point me in the right direction, give me tips on
>> some place to begin (other than the "ask your relatives about their
>> memories" etc) would be endeared to my heart forever!
>> Becca R
>> "The gifted never stop seeing the world for the first time... the great
>> are never forgotten..."
>> -Jupiter Sunrise, September Girl
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