[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ship Manifest Emil Schmidt Help With Location

Wed Mar 19 16:34:35 PDT 2008

Hello to the group,

  My research generally concerns Germans from Russia in the central area of Poland, Rypin to be specific.

  However, recently, I discovered on ancestry.com that my grandfather apparently had a 
  brother I was unaware of, who met him when he emmigrated to Philadelphia.  This brother's name is Emil Schmidt. My mother told me that she had relatives in the Philadephia area, 
  so this find excited me.  I did a search on ancestry to see when and where Emil emmigrated to the USA, and it was in 1907 to Cleveland.  

  My hunch that he was indeed my grandfather's brother was confirmed by the ship manifest
  stating his father as Gottlieb Schmidt, the same as my grandfather.

  What I cannot understand is the location that is listed.  Emil Schmidt is about 
  eleven people down, just after the big group that is listed together.  He is listed as 18 years old, a farm laborer, Russian nationality, German ethnicity, Russian language, but the location is one I have never heard of if I am reading it correctly.

  I am inserting a link to the document and hope someone can read this location better than
  I am able.  I have not been able to find any place with this spelling in the area I am familiar with, and now wonder if the family may have moved to the Ukraine or Volga areas like many of the other Germans from Russia in this group. 

  Here is the link:

  http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e87/Softsong/EmilSchmidt.jpg

  Any help would be greatly appreciated.   

  Joan Allen 

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Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:54:01 -0700
From: Rose Ingram 
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Wygoda close to Ilow (Sochaczew)
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There also appears to be a Wygoda as you indicate, about 2 km SE o f Niedzielska. This Wygoda is right next to a place called Chrosle/Chrusle (and written Krushla) in Volhynian records when these people migrated. Chrusle was given as a birth place, when in fact the actual birth took place in Wygoda. 

So this is the right area.

Rose Ingram 

From: Jerry Frank 
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Wygoda close to Ilow (Sochaczew)

Interesting to see how maps disagree with each other. I checked my 
1:100,000 series modern map to see if that place still existed. I 
found nothing in that location but 2 km SW of Niedzieliska (1 km E of 
Kiernozia) it shows a Wygoda. I then looked at my 1803 Gilley map 
and it shows Wygoda Kr. in the same location as the modern map.

In any case, this seems to be a plausible location for you Wygoda.

Jerry

At 09:44 AM 18/03/2008, Rose Ingram wrote:
>Time frame is 1840's to 1860's.
>Two births in 1847 and 1850. Three older brothers living there in 
>the 1860's when they married in Gostynin and Gabin.
>
>Early this morning an SGGEE member emailed a section of an old 1839 
>map which shows a Wygoda Kr. between the present day villages of 
>Niedzielska and Zalesie.
>
>Rose Ingram
> From: Jerry Frank
> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 5:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Wygoda close to Ilow (Sochaczew)
>
>
> I don't see one any closer than that. What type of record and what
> time frame? In the early years the pastor covered a very large
> territory. I have found pre1810 confirmation records for locations
> as far south as Kochanow, near Rawa Mazowiecka.
>
>
> Jerry Frank - Calgary, Alberta
> FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca
>
>
>
>
> At 09:32 PM 17/03/2008, Rose Ingram wrote:
> >I have found people living in Wygoda in Ilow church records.
> >
> >Is there a Wygoda close to Ilow? Has it been renamed, or does it
> >exist any more?
> >
> >There is a Wygoda south of Lowicz which village does appear in 
> Lowicz records.
> >
> >Rose Ingram
> >
>
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