[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Location of Belgatow and Janowka

[Jerry Frank]

Randy,

Dick's idea is certainly correct given that he found the parents located there.

As for Janowka, you would not expect it to be close to Belchatow as 
indicated in another message by Joe but rather in the Rozyszcze where 
you found the record.  Unfortunately there are at least 2 
possibilities in that parish.  There is one about 4 km SE of Torczyn 
just out of range of the referenced map and one about 7 km N of 
Rozyszcze.  The latter is the one for which you gave the 
coordinates.  IMPORTANT:  The easting you gave for this coordinate is 
based on Ferro.  If you are comparing to other maps, you may need to 
convert to Greenwich by subtracting approximately 17 degrees.

To figure out which is the correct one, you have to look at the 
original church books.  Records were collected by the pastor as he 
travelled through the villages.  Find the villages both before and 
after your record.  They may not be in precise order but they will 
give you enough of a close grouping to determine if it is near 
Rozyszcze or near Torczyn.

SGGEE members can do this with the database using our special search 
tool at http://www.sggee.org/members/StPeteByRoute


Jerry Frank - Calgary, Alberta
FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca


At 05:38 PM 03/01/2009, Richard Stein wrote:
>Randy,
>
>Belgatow is probably Belchatow, Poland located at 51-22 N, 19-23 E, 43 km
>south of Lodz which, in turn, is 119 km WSW of Warsaw.  Belchatow is an
>administrative town and the location of the Lutheran parish church.  Gustav
>Marks may have been born in a smaller village in the vicinity of Belchatow.
>The Parish Records Index database has the marriage of Gustav's parents in
>1881 at Belchatow.   The parents' names are August Marks and Maryanna
>Mathilde Kirsch.  Their ages, names of their parents, and village of
>residence should be on the microfilm number 1733566.
>
>Dick Stein
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Randy Marks" <jibeho22 at comcast.net>
>To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
>Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 5:03 PM
>Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Location of Belgatow and Janowka
>
>
> >
> > Jerry recently posted a link to a map for Rozyszcze Parish .
> > This caught my eye because I have been trying to find a map that shows the
> > towns where a great uncle (Gustav Marks) was born and died.
> > According to the Odessa death records, Gustav was born in Belgatow and
> > died about the age of 1 years on Nov 26, 1882 in Janowka.
> > The map Jerry posted shows a town of Janowka located approx. 50 deg. 59'
> > North and 42 deg 57' East..
> >
> > Is there a way to determine if this Janowka on the map is in fact where my
> > great uncle died?
> >
> > Does anybody know where I might find a similar map that shows Belgatow?
> >
> > Thanks much,
> > Randy Marks
> >
> > Researching the following names:
> >  MARKS (August, Mariane/Mathilde, Amalie/Emilie, William, August Jr.,
> > Adolph, Leopold, Andrew, Martha, Albert, Gottfried)
> >  KIRSCH (Mathilde)
> >  TOENNES (Edgar, Albert)
> >  KIRCHER / KIERCHER (Frederick, Martha, Magdalena/Lena)
> >  SCHOOK (Magdalena/Lena/Martha)
> >  WELTER (Kate/Ella)