[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Anyone on the list had any DNA testing done

Otto otto at schienke.com
Sat May 2 15:39:31 PDT 2009


I am certain some have tested for DNA results.
Some companies test for "STR" results, some test for "SNP" results.

Haplogroups are useful if they contain sub-claves (subgroups)
A R1 haplogroup states very little. Most of Western Europe types R1  
where it is clustered in various national populations.
This is too broad spectrum to qualify anything more than a generic  
belonging to a huge group of people.

In your question you ask what haplogroup ancestors are from?
Who was the company testing you?
This is in reference to:
Paternal Haplogroup?
or
Maternal mitochondrial DNA based Haplogroup?
The test should provide both.

My son and I submitted to DNA testing, with <23andme.com>, a 50,000  
marker "SNP" test, by recommendation of Mark D. Shriver, molecular  
anthropologist at Penn State University. The test includes information  
on 22 chromosomes with special attention to the Y chromosome and the  
mitochondrial DNA markers.

The paternal haplogroup returned is "R1b1c9"
The haplogroup is broken down as "R" "1"  "b" "1" "c" "9"
R1b1c4 is characteristic of the Basque,
R1b1c7 reaches its peak in Ireland
R1b1c9 is most commonly found on the fringes of the North Sea.

Comparing this discovery with secondary evidence accumulated over the  
years, we zeroed in on East Frisia.
Two pieces of secondary evidence:
1. My surname (Schienke) containing the ancient "ie" diphthong.
(It pointed to Dutch or East Frisian origin, leaning toward the Frisian)
2. In a textbook written 1804 containing "echte" (authentic) Frisian  
surnames,"Schienke" was one of them. (much more evidence than can be  
aired here)

3. I googled my surname "Schienke Niedersachsen" (Lower Saxony) (the  
Frisian areas are now Dutch and German-Lower Saxony) and found that  
many "Schienke" still live  and are buried there.
(After 500 years. . .  Home at last!)

My son's maternal haplogroup showed a streak of Atilla in it so he had  
a special test performed with his personal genome information which  
also contained a test for Ashkenazi markers. The result: 0.00%  
Ashkenazi.

I can inquire of him where the test was performed.
DNA testing is a new science without standardization yet is growing  
rapidly in expertise daily.

It would behoove all not to quickly jump to conclusions on origin with  
a palmful of information possessed.

Genetic typing using DNA is a new field very similar to computer  
software in the 1990's. It lacks standardization. Every company wants  
to "posture" first in line in the marketplace. We have "str's" and  
"snp's" used to define ethnicity.. We also have varying number systems  
for haplogroup comparison with different organizations.

On May 2, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Gswilson19 at aol.com wrote:

> I'm curious whether anyone on this list has had DNA testing done on  
> themselves or their relatives.? And if so, what Haplo group they  
> found their ancestors to be from.
>
> Gail
>




. . .   Otto
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