[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 72, Issue 17

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> 1. Re: Can't find Janiskee ship lists (Jerry Frank)
> 2. Re: Can't find Janiskee ship lists (Gary Warner)
> 3. Seeking Stalin-era gulag survivors (E. Adam)
> 4. Re: Emigration of Julius Senninger to America ? (Earl.Schultz)
> 5. Re: Emigration of Julius Senninger to America ? (G?nther B?hm)
> 6. Re: Emigration of Julius Senninger to America ? (Gary Warner)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 13:22:07 -0600
> From: Jerry Frank <FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Can't find Janiskee ship lists
> To: daryl <sofasurferlinux at charter.net>
> Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
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> What spelling options have you considered.? There are dozens of Janiski / Jankiskis which sound similar at Ellis Island.? The also could have arrived by way of a Canadian port.? Etc.
> 
> 
> Jerry
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: daryl <sofasurferlinux at charter.net>
> Date: Friday, May 8, 2009 12:58 pm
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Can't find Janiskee ship lists
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> 
> > My wifes ancestors were Janiskees. They lived in Bay City, 
> > Michigan. 
> > They migrated from Poland. I can find census information all day 
> > long 
> > but I am not able to locate anything in ship lists. I'd like to 
> > know 
> > where they came from, when, and where they arrived at.
> > Thanks
> > 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 12:39:14 -0700
> From: Gary Warner <gary at warnerengineering.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Can't find Janiskee ship lists
> To: daryl <sofasurferlinux at charter.net>
> Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
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> Daryl,
> 
> When looking at any database, you need to keep your ideas of correct 
> spelling of a surname out of the search. It is many times easier to 
> enter the given name of a passenger and include no surname, but instead 
> list the given name of someone that you know was traveling with the 
> first person. Unusual first names are the best and easiest, since 
> names like Johann and Anna are going to give you way to many names to 
> look at. If the given names are common, however, you may reduce the 
> number of returns by using only the first few letters of the surname in 
> the search. Even here, you need to think hard about what letter 
> combinations might have been written down by the person taking the 
> information on the ship or at the port. For instance, on one census, my 
> maternal grandmother, who maiden name is Sihl is shown with the name 
> Seel. My wife also looked and looked for one of her Watson relatives, 
> and finally found him with the name Wotton in the census record. And 
> there are plenty of worse examples than that in the records. 
> 
> Gary Warner
> 
> daryl wrote:
> > My wifes ancestors were Janiskees. They lived in Bay City, Michigan. 
> > They migrated from Poland. I can find census information all day long 
> > but I am not able to locate anything in ship lists. I'd like to know 
> > where they came from, when, and where they arrived at.
> > Thanks
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 13:18:48 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "E. Adam" <ejadam at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Seeking Stalin-era gulag survivors
> To: SGGEE <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
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> Hello all: The message below arrived second-hand in my InBox. If anyone can help her with her research, please reply directly to her.
> 
> Edie Adam
> Virginia, USA
> 
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> Dear Pam:
> 
> Pardon the brief introduction. I am a college professor in Iowa researching an English-language documentary on GULAG survivors now in the United States. To date, I have interviewed a number of forced labor camp survivors from the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s, but am looking for survivors from the Stalin era when the GULAGs were at their largest. My interest in the subject arose during a Fulbright study program in Russia two years ago. Our itinerary include a visit to the Perm-36 Memorial.
> 
> During a recent presentation at Muskegon Community College, your organization (AHSGR) was suggested to me by a member of the Southwest Michigan chapter. Could you possibly put me in touch with any such survivors? Their stories need to be documented on video in English language while there are still survivors among us. As the years pass, there are fewer and fewer of them, as you know.
> 
> I am hoping that you will be able to provide some assistance. I would be most grateful.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Gale Smetana
> Assistant Professor
> Communications Media
> AEGON Endowed Chair 2007-2008
> Kirkwood Community College
> Cedar Rapids, IA
> (319) 398-7163
> gsmetan at kirkwood.edu
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 14:41:28 -0500
> From: "Earl.Schultz" <Earl.Schultz at telusplanet.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Emigration of Julius Senninger to
> America ?
> To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
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> Hi Maik,
> If Julius Senniger's ship record has him coming from Plozk and if he was
> Evangelical Lutheran, then the churches in that area is where I'd start.
> These churches, Lipno, Rypin, Plock and Sierpc, are being extracted and the
> information is being put into SGGEE databases as it is done. It looks like
> Friedrich and daughter Juliane are already in our Pedigree database although
> I can't see the location. That information can come from SGGEE.
> 
> I have checked the Michalki-Rypin parish and the Sennigers were not there
> prior to 1866.
> 
> Hope others can help more.
> 
> Earl
> 
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 17:22:03 +0200
> From: Maik Senninger <maiksenninger at live.de>
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Emigration of Julius Senninger to
> America ?
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> 
> Hi. 
> 
> I have one question. 
> 
> In the year 1892, an Julius Senninger * 1865 emigrated from Plozk/
> Russish-Poland in the north of Lodz to America.
> 
> I think he lives her but it did'nt was his birthplace.
> 
> 29.04.1892 he started from the Harbor of Hamburg/ Germany. 
> 
> He travelled to the Harbor of Leith( Glasgow) in Scotland with the ship
> WEIMAR under english flag.
> 
> At the passenger list he give the information he want to travel again to New
> York.
> 
> 
> My problem is I did'nt find his name again at passengerlists or at the
> arrival documents of Ellis Island.
> 
> I think he was a brother of my grandgrandgrandfather August Senninger. 
> 
> Is there a chance that he goes to Canada from Glasgow and where I can find
> other informations.
> 
> My problem is, I have the names and birthdates of my ancestors like August
> or his father Friedrich but I did'nt know, where her birthplaces.
> 
> I hope I find it in the arrival Documents of this Julius Senninger.
> 
> Thanks for help and best regards.
> 
> Maik ( Senninger )
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 23:52:35 +0200
> From: G?nther B?hm <GHBoehm at ish.de>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Emigration of Julius Senninger to
> America ?
> To: SGGEE Mailingliste <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
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> Maik Senninger schrieb:
> > In the year 1892, an Julius Senninger * 1865 emigrated from Plozk/ Russish-Poland in the north of Lodz to America.
> >
> > I think he lives her but it did'nt was his birthplace.
> >
> > 
> >
> > 29.04.1892 he started from the Harbor of Hamburg/ Germany. 
> >
> > He travelled to the Harbor of Leith( Glasgow) in Scotland with the ship WEIMAR under english flag.
> >
> > At the passenger list he give the information he want to travel again to New York.
> >
> > 
> >
> > My problem is I did'nt find his name again at passengerlists or at the arrival documents of Ellis Island.
> >
> > I think he was a brother of my grandgrandgrandfather August Senninger. 
> > 
> Hallo Maik,
> vor und neben Ellis Island gab es noch eine zweite Einwanderungsbeh?rde 
> im New Yorker Battery Park (an der S?dspitze von Manhattan, Homepage 
> www.castlegarden.org ) und dort ist er auch zu finden:
> 
> First name: Julius
> Last name: SENNINGER
> Occupation: painter
> Age: 27
> Sex: M
> Literacy: Y
> Ship: Circassia
> Arrived: 17 May 1892
> Origin: Germany
> Port: Glasgow & Moville
> Last Residence: ---
> Destination: New York
> Plan: Unknown
> Passage: Unknown
> 
> Leider erfahren Sie auch da nicht mehr als Sie schon wissen - nur, dass 
> er wirklich in New York angekommen ist. Moville, wo die Circassia ( 
> www.immigrantships.net/1800/circassia830219.html ) sicher den gr??ten 
> Teil ihrer menschlichen Fracht aufgenommen hat, ist eine Hafenstadt im 
> Norden von Irland, etwa gegen?ber von Glasgow und dem Firth of Clyde.
> 
> Gr??e vom Niederrhein,
> G?nther B?hm
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 08:41:06 -0700
> From: Gary Warner <gary at warnerengineering.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Emigration of Julius Senninger to
> America ?
> To: Maik Senninger <maiksenninger at live.de>
> Cc: SGGEE Mailingliste <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Message-ID: <4A045292.9000906 at warnerengineering.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Maik,
> 
> I am sending you the New York passenger list for Julius's arrival from 
> Glasgow in 1892, Sadly it does not contain much information that you 
> do not know about already. The attachments should not reach the rest 
> of the mail list, but stranger things have happened. I do not see 
> Julius in the 1900 USA census. Do you know where he was living in 
> 1900, and who he was married to?
> 
> Gary Warner
> SGGEE
> 
> Maik Senninger wrote:
> > Hi. 
> >
> > 
> >
> > I have one question. 
> >
> > In the year 1892, an Julius Senninger * 1865 emigrated from Plozk/ Russish-Poland in the north of Lodz to America.
> >
> > I think he lives her but it did'nt was his birthplace.
> >
> > 
> >
> > 29.04.1892 he started from the Harbor of Hamburg/ Germany. 
> >
> > He travelled to the Harbor of Leith( Glasgow) in Scotland with the ship WEIMAR under english flag.
> >
> > At the passenger list he give the information he want to travel again to New York.
> >
> > 
> >
> > My problem is I did'nt find his name again at passengerlists or at the arrival documents of Ellis Island.
> >
> > I think he was a brother of my grandgrandgrandfather August Senninger. 
> >
> > 
> >
> > Is there a chance that he goes to Canada from Glasgow and where I can find other informations.
> >
> > 
> >
> > My problem is, I have the names and birthdates of my ancestors like August or his father Friedrich but I did'nt know, where her birthplaces.
> >
> > I hope I find it in the arrival Documents of this Julius Senninger.
> >
> > 
> >
> > Thanks for help and best regards.
> >
> > 
> >
> > Maik ( Senninger )
> >
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