[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] a new but unconfirmed lead in my search

John Rauchert jfrauchert at shaw.ca
Tue Jun 1 22:39:45 PDT 2010


Not sure if the following helps but it gives a bit more information about
this family [I am also not sure I have fully mined the resources mentioned
below)

A Search in http://pilot.familysearch.org


Name: Johann Gottlieb Schafer
Gender: Male 
Birth Date: 24 Jul 1854
Birthplace: Rohrbach, Russia
Father's Name: Christoph Schafer
Mother's Name: Christina Wittich

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I10559-5
System Origin: Russia-EASy
Source Film Number: 1883189
Reference Number: 421-110
Collection: Russia Births and Baptisms, 1755-1917

Name: Johann Gottlieb Schäfer
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 25 Jul 1854
Baptism/Christening Place: Glücksthal, Russia
Birth Date: 24 Jul 1854
Birthplace: Glücksthal
Father's Name: Christoph Schäfer
Mother's Name: Christina Wittich

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04211-2
System Origin: Russia-EASy
Source Film Number: 1883189
Reference Number: p421-110
Collection: Russia Births and Baptisms, 1755-1917

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Name: Johann Philipp Schäfer
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 27 Mar 1851
Baptism/Christening Place: Glückstal, Tiraspol', Kherson, Russia
Birth Date: 25 Mar 1851
Birthplace: Glückstal
Father's Name: Christoph Schäfer 
Mother's Name: Christina Willig

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I05162-2
System Origin: World-Miscelaneous-ODM
Source Film Number: 1883181
Reference Number: 
Collection: World Miscellaneous Births and Baptisms, 1534-1983

Name: Johann Philipp Schäfer
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 27 Mar 1851
Baptism/Christening Place: Glückstal, Tiraspol', Kherson, Russia
Birth Date: 25 Mar 1851
Birthplace: Glückstal
Father's Name: Christoph Schäfer
Mother's Name: Christina Willig
 
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I05162-2
System Origin: Russia-ODM
Source Film Number: 1883181
Reference Number: 
Collection: Russia Births and Baptisms, 1755-1917

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Name: Karl Schäffer
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 18 Aug 1885
Baptism/Christening Place: Neudorf, St Petersburg, Russia
Birth Date: 03 Aug 1885
Birthplace: Neudorf
Father's Name: Johann Schäffer
Mother's Name: Karolina Wolf

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03922-1
System Origin: Russia-EASy
Source Film Number: 1897694
Reference Number: p154-61
Collection: Russia Births and Baptisms, 1755-1917

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http://www.odessa3.org

Search Wittich in St. Petersburg Archive Extractions Glueckstal Records



Schaeffer, Christoph       Wittich, Christiana / Christina / Christiane
--- marriage ---      23 Oct 1844 Glueckstal   1882634-3-049-020

Children

Christoph             25 Feb 1845 Glueckstal   1882636-2-116-047
Johann Jacob          27 Oct 1846 Glueckstal   1882638-1-111-183
Johannes              18 Feb 1848 Glueckstal   1882641-2-338-038
Johann Philipp        25 Mar 1851 Glueckstal   1883181-1-328-070
Catharina             20 Dec 1852 Glueckstal   1883185-1-360-247
Johann Gottlieb       24 Jul 1854 Glueckstal   1883189-2-421-110
Margaretha            15 Jun 1856 Glueckstal   1884101-1-403-041
Elisabeth             25 Mar 1858 Glueckstal   1884105-2-411-028
Johannes              17 Jan 1860 Glueckstal   1884080-1-483-005
Christiane            22 Jun 1862 Glueckstal   1884095-3-458-048
Christina             22 Jun 1864 Glueckstal   1884123-4-004-038
Anna Barbara Maria     3 Oct 1868 Glueckstal   1884092-1-459-094
Rosina                22 May 1871 Glueckstal   1884125-2-533-053

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A Brother of Christiana Wittich?


Wittich, Christoph         Riffelmacher, Salomea      
--- marriage ---       4 Aug 1845 Glueckstal   1882636-2-132-018

Children

Johann Vallentin      20 Aug 1846 Cassel       1882638-1-107-131
Georg Peter           18 Jul 1847 Cassel       1882639-1-271-127
Margaretha            10 Aug 1851 Cassel       1883181-1-336-183

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Search Wolf in St. Petersburg Archive Extractions Glueckstal Records

Schaeffer, Johann          Wolf, Caroline             
--- marriage ---      19 Sep 1882 Bergdorf     1895610-1-171-039
Schaeffer, Johann          Wolf, Karoline / Karolina            
--- marriage ---      19 Sep 1882 Bergdorf     1895610-1-223-027


Children

Karl                   3 Aug 1885 Neudorf      1897694-2-154-061



John F. Rauchert, Calgary, Alberta, Canada

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Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 13:40:17 -0600
From: Rosella Mandau <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] a new but unconfirmed lead in my search
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Hello again,
I have some new info that may help in my search for our desendents from
Russia:

Carl and Christena Schaffer (nee Karacha)

Carl's parents were Johann (b ~1854) and Christine or Caroline Schaffer (nee
Wolf) married in 1882  - we believe in Bergdorf.

Johann's brother Gottlieb married Caroline Hausauer October 10, 1877 in
Klein Neudorf and resided in Glukstal

Johann's parents were Christoph Charles Schaffer (b1822 Kirn, Bad Kreuznach,
Rheinland-Pfalz) (d 1880 Sydney, New South Wales) and Christiana Wittich
(b1827)


My goal is to determine more about Christena's family. We would like to
confirm the village they were from and then hope to find her parents and
siblings. Is it safe to assume that Carl would have found his wife in the
same village? Or geographically, would that have been unlikely? Wolf seems
an usual name, so hoping that we can locate the village her Family was from.

The info above has been passed orally (we have found an elder in the family
who was doing research 30 years ago) so, we have no documents to confirm.

Thank you so much for the time you take to help!
Rosella Mandau







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