[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Location Help

George Shoning shoning at q.com
Thu Feb 3 08:34:15 PST 2011


 
Another possibility that the name of the birthplace is "Kamenka", and there are many of those - in the Odessa and Volga regions, as well as Volhynia.
 
George Shoning
 
 

 
> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 06:57:21 -0800
> From: dabookk54 at yahoo.com
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org; jguasch at fastmail.net
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Location Help
> 
> Joyce,
> Since you are aware how foreign names often get mangled on this side of the world my guess is Kamenck is really Kamien. That would make much sense and keeps this family in the area unless you suspect they did travel elsewhere for some time.
> Karl
> 
> --- On Thu, 2/3/11, Joyce Guasch <jguasch at fastmail.net> wrote:
> 
> From: Joyce Guasch <jguasch at fastmail.net>
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Location Help
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 12:23 AM
> 
> First of all, I am reading a typed document: a manifest of a woman and her
> two sons. They originated in Le Havre, France (1927). Emilia Wagner clearly
> states she was born in Poland, Wladyslawow. Her sons were born in Russia,
> Kamenck. She says her language is Russian and German. The sons language is
> Russian. (a subsequent census says German, only). Their last residence was
> Poland,Lubianskon. Their passports were issued in Riga-Russia. She left
> behind her father Mr. Lenz in Serniava Lubianskov Poland.
> 
> When her husband, Carl Wagner immigrated, he stated the last place he lived
> and where his wife remains as what appears to be Gotowak, ??, Lublin. His
> place of birth is too light to read except Russia. He immigrated in 1913. 
> 
> Most of the family has been found in Wladyslawow and Kroczyn or "near"
> Kroczyn (near Chelm). 
> 
> For these locations: Serniava is probably Serniawy, Chelm, Lubelskie.
> Gotowak is probably Gotowka (Gotowka Niemiecka), Chelm, Lubelskie, Poland.
> They seem to be in the right area. 
> 
> Can anyone tell me what Kamenck, Russia might be? A search on the Jewish Gen
> site brings up many, many possibilities whether I confine my search to
> Poland, Kiev or Russia. I've mapped many of them, but still don't know if
> I'm even close. 
> 
> I would appreciate any opinions offered.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Joyce Welke Guasch
> Springfield, Oregon USA
> Researching Welke, Gurke, Zimmerman,
> Ratz, Pusch, Lentz, Jesse, Arndt of East Poland
> Researching Lindley, Bailey, Wisbey of US, Ireland and England.
> Researching Haner of US and Germany
> 
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