[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] (no subject)

[Richard Benert]

Detlef,

You seem to have two stories merged into one here.  In 1915, most Volhynians 
"were withdrawn from that region" to many places in "inner Russia" (most of 
them to areas near the Volga or east of there all the way to Siberia). 
That's one story.  The second is that ethnic German soldiers fighting in the 
Russian Army were withdrawn from the western front (where it was feared that 
they would not fight well against their Austrian and German "brothers") and 
sent to the Caucasian Front where they would be fighting against Turks.

Yes, some Germans were able to leave Russia via Odessa, but few of these, I 
think, were Volhynian Germans. After 1917, most of these (the 2/3 who had 
survived) returned to Volhynia or Poland or from there to Germany.

Dick Benert

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From: "Detlef Gutzmann" <detlef.gutzmann at tu-clausthal.de>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:48 AM
To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] (no subject)

>
> Till the beginning of  WW I, Volhynia belonged to the
> Russian empire, after 1914 situation depended on the
> military situation.
>
> As far as I know, from 1914 a lot of Volhynian Germans
> were withdrawn from that region to the "kaukasian front",
> in the sence of a military district (which must not mean
> military fighting).
>
> Russian and Ukrainian people told me, that a lot of people
> leaved Russia via Odessa at about October-revolution time
> and just before.
>
> Detlef
>
>
>
> Am 14.09.2011 14:23, schrieb DANWWAGNER at aol.com:
>> Art,
>>
>>      I can't really answer your question, except to  share some family
>> history.  My grandfather and his family left  Volhynia through Germany to 
>> Chicago
>> in 1910-1912.  My grandfather and  a cousin came first, and they stayed
>> permanently (except for my  grandfather's trip back to Elsenau, Germany, 
>> to
>> bring over his finance  in 1914).  Then, in an example of chain 
>> migration, my
>> grandfather assisted three brothers and their father to join  him.  Since
>> two brothers and the father had families back in Volhynia, they  returned 
>> home
>> after some months or a year or so of work.  (PS, I would love  to find
>> records of their return to Volhynia.  Passenger lists I've seen  only 
>> record
>> their coming to America.)  The other brother died in  Chicago in an 
>> accident.
>> Back in Volhynia, the whole family got caught  up in WWI, with the two
>> brothers drafted into the German and Russian armies  respectively, 
>> followed by
>> the Bolshevik revolution and continued fighting  between the Ukrainians 
>> and
>> Russians.  My grandfather's brothers were  not able to leave again until 
>> they
>> emigrated to Canada in the late  1920's.
>>
>>      I believe they began leaving Volhynia in 1910  mainly because the
>> Russians were reneging on the promises made to get  Germans to settle 
>> there over
>> the preceding 150 years.  Importantly, Russia  began conscripting ethnic
>> Germans into the growing army as the world headed  toward world war.  Of
>> course, the New World also promised jobs,  cheap land, and a better life.
>>
>>          Dan Wagner
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 9/13/2011 4:52:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> schrota at shaw.ca writes:
>>
>> Good  afternoon
>>
>>
>>
>> Is anyone familiar with the exodus of German  Volhynians from the region
>> between 1910 and 1917. I have a note in an  archive (by Bernhart Forbau)
>> that
>> my grandparents escaped to Germany  through the Middle East. I cannot 
>> find
>> any historical data to support  this.
>>
>>
>>
>> My relatives would include the Schrot, Betke, Brenner and  perhaps Forbau
>> who
>> were living near Mitzk, Volhynia in the early part of  1900. My father 
>> and
>> uncle were born in Germany
>>
>> In 1917 and 1920 in  the Pasewalk area. My father remembers being in the
>> Greifswald  forest.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any help would be much appreciated.  Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Art  Schrot
>>
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