[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] geography assistance: "Gruec"?

Edelgard Strobel udo-edelgard at freenet.de
Mon Jul 30 12:05:22 PDT 2012


Hello Craig,

there is the village of Grojec Wielki; Woj. Lodz, Pow. Sieradz in the south 
east of Kalisz.

 I have a Juliane Schiller in my db, born on Feb. 10. 1860 in Stary 
Borowiec, Konin, daughter of Daniel Schiller and Karoline Lempke, who 
married Johann Martin Steinbrenner on June 28. 1908 in Grodziec.
Maybe there is a connection.

Some of my Zachej (Zache) relatives also moved to Neu Dorosin abt. 1875 from 
Piskory, Kalisz.

Greetings from Germany,

Edelgard


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Craig Schiller" <craigbear at gmail.com>
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:51:10 AM
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] geography assistance: "Gruec"?
>
> I'm a new member who's got a lot of things I need some assistance
> with, but I'll keep it simple and address one thing at a time :-)
>
> My first problem is that our family lore has had my great-grandfather
> and his siblings being born and raised in "Gruec, Kalisz, Poland" --
> but in more than ten years of research, I have yet to actually find
> the first shred of evidence that any such place has ever actually
> existed at all. Literally every single page anywhere on the web that
> links a place named Gruec to Kalisz is a genealogy forum post by me or
> a direct relative of mine inquiring about the same batch of ancestors
> from the same pool of family information; I've never found any other
> evidence that there's ever been a Gruec (or a place whose name could
> conceivably be misspelled as Gruec) anywhere near Kalisz.
>
> In truth, given that outside of that one detail the family history is
> mostly found in Volhynia (Lutsk/Rozyszcze, in particular) instead of
> Posen, I've always had a nagging suspicion that Kalisz was a
> documentation error for Halicz/Halychyna/Galicia -- but that covers a
> very large area, so pursuing that direction has been like searching
> for a needle in a haystack.
>
> Accordingly, I wanted to ask if anybody can assist in nailing down
> this mystery "Gruec". Is there indeed any place in the vicinity of
> Kalisz whose name is, once was or could potentially be misspelled as
> Gruec? Is there a place somewhere in Galicia/Volhynia whose name is,
> once was or could potentially be misspelled as Gruec?
>
> If it helps at all, the family I'm looking for is a Lutheran batch of
> Schillers. My great-grandfather's name was Edward; he had siblings
> named Gottlieb, George, Paul, Emilia and Alma; and he married a
> Christine (or Christina) Maier. Despite the troubles we've had really
> pinning down his birth details properly, we can clearly place him
> around Schuryn/Neu-Dorosin as an adult, as Christine is from that area
> and Edward's Canadian immigration documents say that's where he was
> living when he packed up for North America.
>
> Any assistance would be much appreciated.
>
> - Craig
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