[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Langes from Peterkoff - and elsewhere (karlann at juno.com)
Gary Gomes
ggomes at soundviewnet.com
Sun Jun 17 12:20:54 PDT 2012
Thank you all for the input.
I have pieced together a hypothesis that there are six children of an Andrew
Lange (senior) and Christina Gurel that were born in the 1856 to 1867
timeframe. Christian (my Ggrandfather married Teofila), Andrew (married
Ernestine??), Julia (married Daniel Schindler in Volhynia and migrated to in
Ebenezer), Louise (married Andrew Gurel in Winnipeg and moved to
Ebenezer), Christina (? On ship in 1891 with Christian Lange family), and
Johann Wilhelm (married Amelia Wuttke in Winnipeg and moved to the Yorkton
area). There is evidence for most of these in the obituary of Louise Lange
Gurel.
I have no hard record to support anything further, though a Canadian
researcher who died a number of years back was showing the birthplace for
the Andrew Lange (senior) as 1821-1824 in Belchatow, Lodz, Poland. SGGEE
records suggest possible parents for Andrew Lange as Johnann Lange Wille and
that the parents of Christina Gurel might be Anna Christine Wille, but I am
far from certain of this.
Thanks for listening and providing insight on my continuing journey.
Gary
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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:20:21 -0700
From: Gary Warner <garyw555 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Peterkoff
To: gpvjem <gpvjem at sasktel.net>
Cc: Gary Gomes <ggomes at soundviewnet.com>, 'Stefan D?sterh ,
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Gary,
If you can find data that gets you before about 1865, it is more than
likely that your ancestors were Lutheran. If that is the case, then
the earlier records will be found with the Lutheran records.
Gary Warner
SGGEE
On 6/17/2012 8:08 AM, gpvjem wrote:
> Gary:
> This info may not help you with your research in Europe but it is
almost a certainty that the Lange, Gurel, Pries and Pudel families were of
the Baptist faith. You will find many of these family members buried in the
Baptist cemetery at Ebenezer Saskatchewan. In some cases there are pictures
of the those buried there.
> Go to
> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cansacem/ebenezerobits.html
>
> John Marsch
> -----------------------
> Many of the family members are Baptist; would that be a factor?
>
> Gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefan D?sterh?ft [mailto:stefan.duesterhoeft at gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 3:08 PM
> To: Gary Gomes
> Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Peterkoff
>
> ggomes at soundviewnet.com wrote on Sat Jun 16 2012 22:01:14 GMT+0200
(CEST)
> > One of my Lang/Lange relatives lists his birthplace on his WWI
> > Registration form as "Peterkoff" . He was born October 31, 1887 and
> > is the son of Andrew Lang/Lange and Ernestina Unknown.
>
> > With this in mind, should I assume that "Peterkoff" is the same as
> > Piotrkow Pierwszy (Piotrokow), Lublin, Lubelskie??
>
> Gary,
>
> to my knowledge the Lublin Project database does not have any Lutheran
Germans in Piotrkow Pierwszy and only few in the surrounding villages.
> "Piotrkow" usually refers to Gubernia piotrkowska, which included a
large area with Germans living mainly in and around ??d?. See
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gubernia_piotrkowska
> As the records for 1887 from parishes Lublin and Rozyszcze have been
indexed already and there seems to be no son to a Andreas Lang(e), I'm
afraid you need to widen your search geographically.
>
> Stefan D?sterh?ft
>
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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 17:10:15 GMT
From: "karlann at juno.com" <karlann at juno.com>
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Peterkoff
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Have you looked in the Roschitsche database on SGGEE for Lange records?
There are records for that parish available for the 1880's onwards,
particularly since Lutsk is part of the parish. . As for "Peterkoff," many
families who moved eastward to the region near Lutsk came from and area of
Poland known as "Petrikau," which includes or is adjacent several Lutheran
parishes, including Lodz, a parish called "Petrikau" and Belchatow.
I have an ancestor by the name of Rosina nee Lange, whose death record as a
married woman in Belchatow, 1849 lists her birthplace as Latoja, Prussia
(and I have no idea where that might be), but her descendants moved on to
the Lutsk region by the 1880s. My grandmother was born near Lutsk the
1890's.
Karla Walters
Gary Gomes writes:
One of my Lang/Lange relatives lists his birthplace on his WWI Registration
form as "Peterkoff" . He was born October 31, 1887 and is the son of Andrew
Lang/Lange and Ernestina Unknown. Census records describe the parents as
Germans from Russia or Russian Poland and the Hamburg ship record (1889)
lists the family's residence as Residence: Roschitsche, Russland
Many of my relatives (Langes, Gurels, Pries, Pudel, etc.) left the area a
around Lublin and Lutsk between 1888 and 1910, destined for Canada and
ending up in the Yorkton/Ebenezer SK area.
With this in mind, should I assume that "Peterkoff" is the same as Piotrkow
Pierwszy (Piotrokow), Lublin, Lubelskie??
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