[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 108, Issue 20
Emilie Whitson
this_is_emilie at hotmail.com
Mon May 14 13:52:35 PDT 2012
Hello all, Looking for assistance and information on my G G Grandparents August and Lydia Kotke (changed to Otke when arrived in Canada). August born about 1876, Lydia 1886. I have no knowledge of who their parents were and where they came from other than to say that one of the daughters was later able to get a copy of her birth certificate from Chelm, in Poland. My Great Grandfather, Julius, was their eldest child. August arrived in Canada in 1910, Lydia came in 1913 with 4 children. I have been unsuccessful in searches of the databases on the website and in members-only, but perhaps there is something I am missing. Thank you, Emilie Whitson
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> Subject: Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 108, Issue 20
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> 1. Diefenbacher auf GedBas (Eveline Tiefenbach)
> 2. Villiage Help (Eveline Tiefenbach)
> 3. Re: Villiage Help (G?nther B?hm)
> 4. Re: Przasnysz Parish-Adam Heller family (kitchur at mts.net)
> 5. Krause & Bielitz in Sierpc/Lipno parishes (Linda Marks Pauling)
> 6. Re: Przasnysz Parish-Adam Heller family (shoning at q.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 15:33:29 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Eveline Tiefenbach <liebeemmi at aol.com>
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Diefenbacher auf GedBas
> To: pommern-l at genealogy.net, ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
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> Hallo
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>
> ich wahr auf der suche nach Johann Friedrich Diefenbacher der ausgewandert ist 1805 Kolonie Neu W?rttemberg, Tkaczew, Warszawa, Polska, nun auf GedBas in der KB von Ozorkow hatte ich ihn gefunden und noch andere Diefenbacher.
>
>
> Ich suche info zur:
>
>
> Johann Diefenbacher oo 1827 Margarete Hirter
> Kinder:
> Johann August Diefenbacher *1828
> Karl Friedrich Diefenbacher *1830
>
>
> es ist m?glich das ihre kinder in die Volhynia gezogen sind
>
>
> was on the search for Johann Friedrich Diefenbacher who emigrated 1805 Kolonie Neu W?rttemberg, Tkaczew, Warszawa, Polska, on GedBas in the Church Records Ozorkow I had found him and more Diefenbacher.
>
>
> Looking for more info on:
>
>
> Johann Diefenbacher oo 1827 Margarete Hirter
> Children:
> Johann August Diefenbacher *1828
> Karl Friedrich Diefenbacher *1830
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>
> it is possible that there children left for the Vohlynia
>
>
> Danke
> Regards
> Eveline Tiefenbach
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 07:05:44 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Eveline Tiefenbach <liebeemmi at aol.com>
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Villiage Help
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> Hello ti the list
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> Need help with finding Deutsch-Lamsk, Odessa, where is this villiage or is it not a villiage
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>
> Regards
> Eveline
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 13:24:27 +0200
> From: G?nther B?hm <GHBoehm at ish.de>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Villiage Help
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> Am 14.05.2012 13:05, schrieb Eveline Tiefenbach:
> > Hello ti the list
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Need help with finding Deutsch-Lamsk, Odessa, where is this villiage or is it not a villiage
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Eveline
>
> Hello Eveline,
> trying to guess:
>
> Lymans'ke, Oblast Odessa, Ukraine 67452
> [?????????, ??????? ???????, ???????]
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> Lymanske included the German colonies Selz, Kandel and Baden.
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> G?nther
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 11:50:49 -0500
> From: <kitchur at mts.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Przasnysz Parish-Adam Heller family
> To: <garyw555 at gmail.com>, sggee mail list
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> these names Heller - Grams - any chance that they might have been spelted as Hiller and Grems/Grimes? and would
> Tiefensee, Germany be anywhere near this Przasynsz parish?
> the in laws had family left behind somewhere in Germany father was Eltern George Hiller + Marianna Grems/Grimes
> its been a family line that I'm not having much luck with tracing.
>
> > Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 08:53:15 -0700
> > From: garyw555 at gmail.com
> > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Przasnysz Parish-Adam Heller family
> >
> > Joyce,
> >
> > None of the names you mention below are my family in the Przasnysz
> > parish, so far as I presently know. I do have Grams, but they are in
> > the adjoining Nowy Dwor parish.
> >
> > There are many more records that I have not yet fully extracted for this
> > parish. Do you need specific records?
> >
> > I will send you a separate history of the Przasynsz parish, just off the
> > presses, from George Shoning.
> >
> > Gary Warner
> >
> > On 5/11/2012 4:19 AM, Joyce E. wrote:
> > > Mr. G. Warner,
> > >
> > > With the generous help of a fellow SGGEE member we were able to trace part of my line back
> > > to relatives in the Prasnysz parish records you provided to the SGGEE parish list.
> > >
> > > Some of the lines are Heller-Grams-Floeting-Lang. Are any of these lines connected to you?
> > >
> > > I am also trying to find some history on the Przasnysz Parish. Thank you for any help in this matter.
> > >
> > >
> > > Joyce
> > >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 10:03:32 -0700
> From: "Linda Marks Pauling" <lmpauling at utech.net>
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Krause & Bielitz in Sierpc/Lipno
> parishes
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> I have been trying to help Doris Krause Stienen in Berlin search for her family, but she is not able, so far, to get earlier than 1886 when the filmed records for Sierpc end, and Lipno films end even earlier. She has worked for the first time last Friday at the EZAV in Berlin and we hope she will find some information there. This is all new to her including trying to read the Polish.
>
> This is what we know:
> Martin Bielitz and Karoline Lembke are the parents of:
> Lydia Bielitz (her grandmother) b. 1900
> Emma Bielitz b. 1895
> Emelia Bielitz b. 1888
> all are born in Lipiny in Lipno parish. I found Emelia in the Lipno confirmation records (1865-1906), but the others are too young.
>
> Her grandfather is Gustav Krause b. 1895 in Gozdy, Sierpc parish. He is married 1917 to Lydia Bielitz and dies 1945 near Charkov, Russia. She does not know the parents of Gustav. She had searched at EZAV last Friday for his birth. I suggested when she goes to EZAV this Friday that she search for their marriage. Hopefully it was in Lipno and not Sierpc as Sierpc records are not in EZAV. I also suggested the parish of Dobrzyn on the Wisla as it is quite close to Lipiny.
>
>
> Lydia's sister is married to Ferdinand Krause who was probably born in Bendzen se of Sierpc. She knows that Ferdinand is a relative of her grandfather Gustav but she does not know if he may be a brother or cousin. She also knows that the parents of Ferdinand are Heinrich Krause and Florentine Mueller.
>
> Ferdinand had 2 brothers who came to the US, Adam and Julius. I did find the immigration, census, death, descendants of Adam, but no sure trace of Julius. Adam's locations are Hartford and Meriden, CT, with an obituary as recent as 2011 for Adam's daughter-in-law age 99.
>
> Doris also knows that siblings of both her grandparents, Gustav Krause and Lydia b. Bielitz emigrated to Canada and the US, living about 2 hours from Hanover, Ontario; Omaha, Nebraska; and Connecticut. She knows they visited her family in Germany in the 1960's-70's and remembers the first names Erica, Ewald, and Herbert, but does not know if they are Bielitz or Krause.
>
> I know that Rose and Earl have both corresponded with Doris, and I did suggest (as did Rose) that she may want to join sggee. I also checked the data on sggee, but do not see anything that looks like it is her family. Does any of this sound familiar to anyone else? Or do you have any suggestions I might share with her or try myself?
>
> Linda Marks Pauling in California
>
> "... for such a time as this..." Esther 4:14
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 13:43:07 -0400 (EDT)
> From: shoning at q.com
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Przasnysz Parish-Adam Heller family
> To: kitchur at mts.net, ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
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> " . . .would Tiefensee, Germany be anywhere near this Przasynsz parish?"
>
> The only Tiefensee that I can find is on the northern border (north of Pieni?zno) of today's Poland and Russia; it is called Gl?bock in Polish. It is far from Przasnysz.
>
> George Shoning
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kitchur at mts.net
> To: garyw555 at gmail.com, "sggee mail list" <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 10:50:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Przasnysz Parish-Adam Heller family
>
>
> these names Heller - Grams - any chance that they might have been spelted as Hiller and Grems/Grimes? and would
> Tiefensee, Germany be anywhere near this Przasynsz parish?
> the in laws had family left behind somewhere in Germany father was Eltern George Hiller + Marianna Grems/Grimes
> its been a family line that I'm not having much luck with tracing.
>
> > Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 08:53:15 -0700
> > From: garyw555 at gmail.com
> > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Przasnysz Parish-Adam Heller family
> >
> > Joyce,
> >
> > None of the names you mention below are my family in the Przasnysz
> > parish, so far as I presently know. I do have Grams, but they are in
> > the adjoining Nowy Dwor parish.
> >
> > There are many more records that I have not yet fully extracted for this
> > parish. Do you need specific records?
> >
> > I will send you a separate history of the Przasynsz parish, just off the
> > presses, from George Shoning.
> >
> > Gary Warner
> >
> > On 5/11/2012 4:19 AM, Joyce E. wrote:
> > > Mr. G. Warner,
> > >
> > > With the generous help of a fellow SGGEE member we were able to trace part of my line back
> > > to relatives in the Prasnysz parish records you provided to the SGGEE parish list.
> > >
> > > Some of the lines are Heller-Grams-Floeting-Lang. Are any of these lines connected to you?
> > >
> > > I am also trying to find some history on the Przasnysz Parish. Thank you for any help in this matter.
> > >
> > >
> > > Joyce
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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