[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] update on using www.szukajwarchiwach.pl

Mauricio Norenberg mauricio.norenberg at gmail.com
Thu Apr 4 18:30:36 PDT 2013


I am trying to get hold of the actual record, I am not sure if it will be
on LDS films as Jerry mentioned. This member at genealodzy.pl has indexed
as well:
http://www.geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?rid=159&from_date=1827&to_date=1827&search_lastname=&search_lastname2=&rpp2=50&rpp1=450&bdm=S&w=05ld&op=gt

The 10 th entry of the list, Jan Noryberg, this is my gg grandfather.

By the way, thank you so much everyone on helping me finding this joy,
specially Hannes Werner.




On 4 April 2013 02:04, Karl Krueger <dabookk54 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am not familiar with Nowe Skoszewy and I doubt that village had their
> own Catholic church back in 1827. I have looked at films for Stare Skoszewy
> (https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/218810) up to 1828 since,
> Mauricio, this is where our ancestors lived back then. But when I had that
> film it was before I knew you were potentially related to me so I did not
> pay attention to the Noerenbergs on that film. The names I paid attention
> to were Hirsekorn, Wolski, Domres, and Nikel all from Glogowiec or Buczek.
> Note that Markus does not show up in this parish since they reported to
> Dmosin or Kolacinek and you have that data from me already. All Germans
> from those churches are in the MPD already.
> Karl
>
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Jerry Frank <franklyspeaking at shaw.ca>
> *To:* Mauricio Norenberg <mauricio.norenberg at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Ger-Poland-Volhynia <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 3, 2013 8:37 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] update on using
> www.szukajwarchiwach.pl
>
> These 1826-37 marriage records for Nowe Skoszewy are not yet published on
> line.  They are in Polish Archives according to Pradziad.  I could not find
> in FamilySearch that they have ever been microfilmed by the LDS.
>
> Note that Szukajwarchiwach lists all available records at its site, not
> just those that are online.
>
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mauricio Norenberg" <mauricio.norenberg at gmail.com>
> To: "Albert Muth" <albertmuth734 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Ger-Poland-Volhynia" <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2013 4:41:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] update on using www.szukajwarchiwach.pl
>
> Hi, I am trying to find out if these records are available online:
>
> http://www.szukajwarchiwach.pl/pradziad/44542?q=Skoszewy&wynik=26&rpp=15&page=2
> I'm looking for the marriage record Nr. 17 from 1827 in Skoszewy Parish.
>
> I tried to figure out with no luck.
>
> The file/branch for łódzkie seemed to be either 42 or 49.
>
> http://baza.archiwa.gov.pl/sezam/pradziad.php?l=en&mode=showopis&id=44484&miejscowosc=Skoszewy&rodzajaktu_id=14
>
>
> On the March PDF I can see Akta Stanu Cywilnego Gminy Skoszewy as SUMA 458
> but this is not even searchable.
>
>
> Am I doing something terribly wrong or the records I mention are not yet
> available? And if not, how do I find the microfilm number or anything that
> could bring me the record?
>
> Thanking you in anticipation
>
> Mauricio
>
>
> On 7 March 2013 09:46, Albert Muth <albertmuth734 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The list for March 2013 of the record groups that the Polish State
> Archives
> > has just
> > uploaded may be found at
> >
> >
> http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/media/attachments/zal1_swa_dasc1.1_2013-03-05.pdf
> > You need to know the archive branch number.
> >
> > Białystok 4
> >
> > Kalisz 11
> >
> > Katowice 12
> >
> > Koszalin 26
> >
> > Kraków 29
> >
> > Leszno 34
> >
> > Lublin 35
> >
> > Poznań 53
> >
> > Poznań Oddzial w Koninie 54
> >
> > Rzeszów 59
> >
> > Suwałki 63
> >
> > Zielona Góra 89
> >
> >
> > These are the only archive branches that are posting now in March 2013.
> If
> > you have been using the service already, you know
> > that Warszawa's number is 72.  I have not tracked the numbers of the
> other
> > archive branches participating in the beta test.
> >
> > To learn how to find a set of records, let's just consider the first item
> > on the PDF file
> > that I refer you to at the beginning of this email:  Akta stanu cywilnego
> > Okręgu Bożniczego w Sokołach,
> > a set of Jewish records stored in the archives branch in Białystok.
> >
> > To find the records online, go to
> > www.szukajwarchiwach.pl/4/265/0
> >
> > When the page opens, you will see a bright red arrow that says
> > "Collection".
> > click on the term "units  [45/45]"
> >
> > You may change the number of items (list of record types) you are seeing
> on
> > a page.
> > Right above the listing, you see a drop-down menu labelled "Liczba
> > jednostek na stronie".
> > You may select 15 30 50 or 100.  I chose 100.
> >
> > In the right-hand column named "Number of Sheets", this is where you will
> > find the
> > record set that has digitized records.  Many of the columns have a zero;
> > where there is
> > a number, click on it. that will take you to the records.
> >
> > The first item that has digital images is named "Duplikat urodzonych
> > zaślubionych
> > i zmarłych wyznania niechrześcijańskiego Okręgu Sokoły za rok 1867"
> > The information in each of the four columns is "clickable", though they
> > don't look
> > like the hyperlinks that we are accustomed to.
> >
> > When the page opens, you can see the call number highlighted in red
> > 4/265/0/-/26.
> > Click on "digital copies 20" located just to the right of it.
> >
> > Again, you have the option of determining the number of digital images
> that
> > you
> > see on the screen 15, 30, 50 or 100.  Let's all select 100.
> >
> > This appears to be item 4 of an LDS film #1191940.
> >
> > As you highlight each image, you can see the name of it, below.
> > I can see indices on files 9, 11 and 18, in the same positions that you
> > would see it on the microfilm, and gee, the original record book!  The
> > normal order is birth, marriage, death.
> >
> > On image 7, left side, bottom you will find the birth of a child
> > Jankiel Chaim Notkowicz.  Normally, a citation would include
> > the film number, year and record number.  Maybe a page number also
> > if you wanted to get fancy.
> >
> > However, in the digital age, this is not sufficient.  What URL are you
> > going to use?
> > At the top of my page, I see
> > http://www.szukajwarchiwach.pl/4/265/0/-/26/str/1/1/100#tabSkany
> > I will confess that I still take notes by hand. The thought of writing
> all
> > that down is very daunting.
> >
> > For the moment, I have a single source that points to the general address
> > www.szukajwarchiwach.pl
> > Where normally I put my film #/year/record #, I am putting the number of
> > the collection, in this
> > case 4/265/l0/-/26.  For this record, I would add the words "Image 7".  I
> > would add a note
> > that the record is 1867/#16.
> >
> > Elizabeth Shown Mills, I am not.  But if there are any budding
> > bibliographers out there who
> > can help us out on citation formatting, every last one of us should and
> > would be grateful.
> >
> > Al Muth
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