[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] genetika.genealodzie.pl

Sat Apr 6 18:13:46 PDT 2013

Hello Karl,

Just wondering if this is related to you:

Birth: Franciszek Norenberg in Dąbrowice. Father Jan Norenberg, Mother
Karolina Kryger.
The scan:
http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.php?ar=3&zs=1453d&sy=1828&kt=1&plik=028-033.jpg
It's the record number 30

I wonder about other names and useful information in there, but I can't
read these records yet. Are you able to transcribe the full record?

Kind Regards

Mauricio

On 6 April 2013 02:30, Karl Krueger <dabookk54 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> This is now a general response to the entire listserv.
>
> Sorry for the second reply but now my question is similar to Mauricio's.
> While I believe Mauricio can find the marriage he wants on a LDS film if he
> needs, I found the births for my gg-grandparents given in Zelechninek.
> These records are not available with LDS. Does anyone know how we can try
> to get at records listed in here? Obviously the indexes from which these
> lists were created suggest additional records exist somewhere that the LDS
> did not yet film and I need to get at those Zelechninek records.
>
> Mauricio - thanks again for showing me this. What a find for me.
> Karl
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Mauricio Norenberg <mauricio.norenberg at gmail.com>
> *To:* Karl Krueger <dabookk54 at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* Ger-Poland-Volhynia <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 4, 2013 9:30 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] update on using
> www.szukajwarchiwach.pl
>
> I am trying to get hold of the actual record, I am not sure if it will be
> on LDS films as Jerry mentioned. This member at genealodzy.pl has indexed
> as well:
>
> http://www.geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?rid=159&from_date=1827&to_date=1827&search_lastname=&search_lastname2=&rpp2=50&rpp1=450&bdm=S&w=05ld&op=gt
>
> The 10 th entry of the list, Jan Noryberg, this is my gg grandfather.
>
> By the way, thank you so much everyone on helping me finding this joy,
> specially Hannes Werner.
>
>
>
>
> On 4 April 2013 02:04, Karl Krueger <dabookk54 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I am not familiar with Nowe Skoszewy and I doubt that village had their
> > own Catholic church back in 1827. I have looked at films for Stare
> Skoszewy
> > (https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/218810) up to 1828 since,
> > Mauricio, this is where our ancestors lived back then. But when I had
> that
> > film it was before I knew you were potentially related to me so I did not
> > pay attention to the Noerenbergs on that film. The names I paid attention
> > to were Hirsekorn, Wolski, Domres, and Nikel all from Glogowiec or
> Buczek.
> > Note that Markus does not show up in this parish since they reported to
> > Dmosin or Kolacinek and you have that data from me already. All Germans
> > from those churches are in the MPD already.
> > Karl
> >
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> > *From:* Jerry Frank <franklyspeaking at shaw.ca>
> > *To:* Mauricio Norenberg <mauricio.norenberg at gmail.com>
> > *Cc:* Ger-Poland-Volhynia <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 3, 2013 8:37 AM
> >
> > *Subject:* Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] update on using
> > www.szukajwarchiwach.pl
> >
> > These 1826-37 marriage records for Nowe Skoszewy are not yet published on
> > line.  They are in Polish Archives according to Pradziad.  I could not
> find
> > in FamilySearch that they have ever been microfilmed by the LDS.
> >
> > Note that Szukajwarchiwach lists all available records at its site, not
> > just those that are online.
> >
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mauricio Norenberg" <mauricio.norenberg at gmail.com>
> > To: "Albert Muth" <albertmuth734 at gmail.com>
> > Cc: "Ger-Poland-Volhynia" <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2013 4:41:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] update on using
> www.szukajwarchiwach.pl
> >
> > Hi, I am trying to find out if these records are available online:
> >
> >
> http://www.szukajwarchiwach.pl/pradziad/44542?q=Skoszewy&wynik=26&rpp=15&page=2
> > I'm looking for the marriage record Nr. 17 from 1827 in Skoszewy Parish.
> >
> > I tried to figure out with no luck.
> >
> > The file/branch for łódzkie seemed to be either 42 or 49.
> >
> >
> http://baza.archiwa.gov.pl/sezam/pradziad.php?l=en&mode=showopis&id=44484&miejscowosc=Skoszewy&rodzajaktu_id=14
> >
> >
> > On the March PDF I can see Akta Stanu Cywilnego Gminy Skoszewy as SUMA
> 458
> > but this is not even searchable.
> >
> >
> > Am I doing something terribly wrong or the records I mention are not yet
> > available? And if not, how do I find the microfilm number or anything
> that
> > could bring me the record?
> >
> > Thanking you in anticipation
> >
> > Mauricio
> >
> >
> > On 7 March 2013 09:46, Albert Muth <albertmuth734 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The list for March 2013 of the record groups that the Polish State
> > Archives
> > > has just
> > > uploaded may be found at
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/media/attachments/zal1_swa_dasc1.1_2013-03-05.pdf
> > > You need to know the archive branch number.
> > >
> > > Białystok 4
> > >
> > > Kalisz 11
> > >
> > > Katowice 12
> > >
> > > Koszalin 26
> > >
> > > Kraków 29
> > >
> > > Leszno 34
> > >
> > > Lublin 35
> > >
> > > Poznań 53
> > >
> > > Poznań Oddzial w Koninie 54
> > >
> > > Rzeszów 59
> > >
> > > Suwałki 63
> > >
> > > Zielona Góra 89
> > >
> > >
> > > These are the only archive branches that are posting now in March 2013.
> > If
> > > you have been using the service already, you know
> > > that Warszawa's number is 72.  I have not tracked the numbers of the
> > other
> > > archive branches participating in the beta test.
> > >
> > > To learn how to find a set of records, let's just consider the first
> item
> > > on the PDF file
> > > that I refer you to at the beginning of this email:  Akta stanu
> cywilnego
> > > Okręgu Bożniczego w Sokołach,
> > > a set of Jewish records stored in the archives branch in Białystok.
> > >
> > > To find the records online, go to
> > > www.szukajwarchiwach.pl/4/265/0
> > >
> > > When the page opens, you will see a bright red arrow that says
> > > "Collection".
> > > click on the term "units  [45/45]"
> > >
> > > You may change the number of items (list of record types) you are
> seeing
> > on
> > > a page.
> > > Right above the listing, you see a drop-down menu labelled "Liczba
> > > jednostek na stronie".
> > > You may select 15 30 50 or 100.  I chose 100.
> > >
> > > In the right-hand column named "Number of Sheets", this is where you
> will
> > > find the
> > > record set that has digitized records.  Many of the columns have a
> zero;
> > > where there is
> > > a number, click on it. that will take you to the records.
> > >
> > > The first item that has digital images is named "Duplikat urodzonych
> > > zaślubionych
> > > i zmarłych wyznania niechrześcijańskiego Okręgu Sokoły za rok 1867"
> > > The information in each of the four columns is "clickable", though they
> > > don't look
> > > like the hyperlinks that we are accustomed to.
> > >
> > > When the page opens, you can see the call number highlighted in red
> > > 4/265/0/-/26.
> > > Click on "digital copies 20" located just to the right of it.
> > >
> > > Again, you have the option of determining the number of digital images
> > that
> > > you
> > > see on the screen 15, 30, 50 or 100.  Let's all select 100.
> > >
> > > This appears to be item 4 of an LDS film #1191940.
> > >
> > > As you highlight each image, you can see the name of it, below.
> > > I can see indices on files 9, 11 and 18, in the same positions that you
> > > would see it on the microfilm, and gee, the original record book!  The
> > > normal order is birth, marriage, death.
> > >
> > > On image 7, left side, bottom you will find the birth of a child
> > > Jankiel Chaim Notkowicz.  Normally, a citation would include
> > > the film number, year and record number.  Maybe a page number also
> > > if you wanted to get fancy.
> > >
> > > However, in the digital age, this is not sufficient.  What URL are you
> > > going to use?
> > > At the top of my page, I see
> > > http://www.szukajwarchiwach.pl/4/265/0/-/26/str/1/1/100#tabSkany
> > > I will confess that I still take notes by hand. The thought of writing
> > all
> > > that down is very daunting.
> > >
> > > For the moment, I have a single source that points to the general
> address
> > > www.szukajwarchiwach.pl
> > > Where normally I put my film #/year/record #, I am putting the number
> of
> > > the collection, in this
> > > case 4/265/l0/-/26.  For this record, I would add the words "Image
> 7".  I
> > > would add a note
> > > that the record is 1867/#16.
> > >
> > > Elizabeth Shown Mills, I am not.  But if there are any budding
> > > bibliographers out there who
> > > can help us out on citation formatting, every last one of us should and
> > > would be grateful.
> > >
> > > Al Muth
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