[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 126, Issue 27

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Today's  Topics:

1. German Language Newspapers - Canada  (gpvjem)
2. Re: German Language Newspapers - Canada (Gary  Warner)
3. some kind of grain (Richard Benert)
4. Re: some kind of grain (rlyster)
5. Re: some kind of grain  (Otto)
6. Re: some kind of grain (Bianca Ritz)
7. Re: some kind of grain (Dr Susanne Jeske)
8. Re: some kind  of grain  (Otto)


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Message:  1
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 16:14:35 -0600
From: "gpvjem"  <gpvjem at sasktel.net>
To:  <Ger-Poland-Volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
Subject:  [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] German Language Newspapers - Canada
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Greetings Listserve  members:     

Does anyone know if German  language newspapers "Der Nordwesten" and "Der 
Kourier" that were published in  Winnipeg Manitoba available to the public 
for viewing on microfilm?  I am  particularly interested in the obituaries of 
the very early 1900s.

With  thanks,
John Marsch

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Message:  2
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 16:07:59 -0800
From: Gary Warner  <garyw555 at gmail.com>
To: gpvjem at sasktel.net,  Ger-Poland-Volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia]  German Language Newspapers - Canada
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John,

I did an inter-library loan for  Der Nordwestern more than twenty years 
ago, and it was on microfilm or  microfiche at that time. ?I do not remember 
which library, but it came to me  in Washington on request through my local 
library. ?It might be digitized by  now.

Gary Warner


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From: gpvjem  <gpvjem at sasktel.net> 
Date: 11/29/2013  2:14 PM   (GMT-08:00) 
To: Ger-Poland-Volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org 
Subject:  [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] German Language Newspapers - Canada 

Greetings  Listserve members:???? 

?? Does anyone know if German language  newspapers "Der Nordwesten" and 
"Der Kourier" that were published in Winnipeg  Manitoba available to the public 
for viewing on microfilm?? I am particularly  interested in the obituaries 
of the very early 1900s.

With  thanks,
John  Marsch
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Message:  3
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 18:28:10 -0800
From: "Richard Benert"  <benovich at live.com>
To: "SGGEE"  <ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org>
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] some  kind of grain
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Does anyone happen to know what  "Welschkorn" might be, or what it might 
have 
been back around 1800?   The Russian government's recruitment propaganda 
included it along with  wine, saffron, melons and tobacco in a list of all 
the wonderful things  that would grow in the Odessa region.

>From the Department of Silly  Questions in Bozeman.

Dick Benert  



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Message: 4
Date: Fri,  29 Nov 2013 19:30:16 -0700 (MST)
From: rlyster  <rlyster at telusplanet.net>
To: Richard Benert  <benovich at live.com>
Cc: SGGEE  <ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org>
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia]  some kind of grain
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Maybe you mean Weisekorn  or  Wheat??   Rita

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard  Benert" <benovich at live.com>
To: "SGGEE"  <ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org>
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013  7:28:10 PM
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] some kind of  grain



Does anyone happen to know what "Welschkorn" might be, or  what it might 
have 
been back around 1800?  The Russian government's  recruitment propaganda 
included it along with wine, saffron, melons and  tobacco in a list of all 
the wonderful things that would grow in the  Odessa region.

>From the Department of Silly Questions in  Bozeman.

Dick Benert  

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Message:  5
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 22:40:41 -0500
From: Otto  <otto at schienke.com>
To: SGGEE  <ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org>
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia]  some kind of grain
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On Nov 29, 2013, at 9:30 PM,  rlyster wrote:

> Maybe you mean Weisekorn  or  Wheat??   Rita
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Richard Benert" <benovich at live.com>
> To: "SGGEE"  <ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013  7:28:10 PM
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] some kind of grain
>  
> Does anyone happen to know what "Welschkorn" might be, or what it  might 
have 
> been back around 1800?  The Russian government's  recruitment propaganda 
> included it along with wine, saffron, melons  and tobacco in a list of 
all 
> the wonderful things that would grow in  the Odessa region.
> 
> From the Department of Silly Questions in  Bozeman.
> Dick Benert 
>  _______________________________________________
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BUCKWHEAT
I  cannot state with certainty but I'd place my nickel on  Buckwheat.

Buchweizen = Beechwheat = Buckwheat = Fagopyrum esculentum  related to 
rhubarb, an ancient seed cultivated approximately 8,000 years. We  raised a 
field of it each year for baking and as a grits sausage  ingredient.  My son saw 
fields of it growing in  Bhutan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckwheat

Schwarzes Welschkorn  {n} [Buchweizen]
buckwheat [Fagopyrum esculentum, syn.: F.  emarginatum]bot.
common buckwheat [Fagopyrum esculentum, syn.: F.  emarginatum]bot.
Japanese buckwheat [Fagopyrum esculentum, syn.: F.  emarginatum]bot.
silverhull buckwheat [Fagopyrum esculentum, syn.: F.  emarginatum]bot.

http://www.dict.cc/german-english/Schwarzes+Welschkorn.html

http://translation.babylon.com/german/Welschkorn/#
Welschkorn  in German
Welschkorn bezeichnet:
? (Alt)-Mais (von  ?welschem Korn?)
? Echter Buchweizen (auch Schwarzes  Welschkorn)

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welschkorn

. .  .   Otto
" The Zen moment..."  wk. of January 01, 2013-
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Date:  Sat, 30 Nov 2013 09:16:55 +0100 (CET)
From: "Bianca Ritz"  <B.Ritz at gmx.de>
To: benovich at live.com
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Message:  7
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 09:21:47 +0100
From: Dr Susanne Jeske  <susannejeske at orange.fr>
To:  ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] some kind  of grain
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I found eather mais or  buckwheat, having looked on the german page of 
whikipedia..
Have a nice  day and sorry for my bad english...
Susanne






Am  30.11.2013 04:40, schrieb Otto:
>
> On Nov 29, 2013, at 9:30 PM,  rlyster wrote:
>
>> Maybe you mean Weisekorn  or  Wheat??   Rita
>>
>> ----- Original Message  -----
>> From: "Richard Benert" <benovich at live.com>
>>  To: "SGGEE" <ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org>
>> Sent: Friday,  November 29, 2013 7:28:10 PM
>> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] some  kind of grain
>>
>> Does anyone happen to know what  "Welschkorn" might be, or what it might 
have
>> been back around  1800?  The Russian government's recruitment propaganda
>>  included it along with wine, saffron, melons and tobacco in a list of  
all
>> the wonderful things that would grow in the Odessa  region.
>>
>>  From the Department of Silly Questions  in Bozeman.
>> Dick Benert
>>  _______________________________________________
>>  Ger-Poland-Volhynia site list
>>  Ger-Poland-Volhynia at sggee.org
>>  https://www.sggee.org/mailman/listinfo/ger-poland-volhynia
>  BUCKWHEAT
> I cannot state with certainty but I'd place my nickel on  Buckwheat.
>
> Buchweizen = Beechwheat = Buckwheat = Fagopyrum  esculentum related to 
rhubarb, an ancient seed cultivated approximately 8,000  years. We raised a 
field of it each year for baking and as a grits sausage  ingredient.  My son 
saw fields of it growing in Bhutan.
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckwheat
>
> Schwarzes Welschkorn  {n} [Buchweizen]
> buckwheat [Fagopyrum esculentum, syn.: F.  emarginatum]bot.
> common buckwheat [Fagopyrum esculentum, syn.: F.  emarginatum]bot.
> Japanese buckwheat [Fagopyrum esculentum, syn.: F.  emarginatum]bot.
> silverhull buckwheat [Fagopyrum esculentum, syn.: F.  emarginatum]bot.
>
>  http://www.dict.cc/german-english/Schwarzes+Welschkorn.html
>
>  http://translation.babylon.com/german/Welschkorn/#
> Welschkorn in  German
> Welschkorn bezeichnet:
>     ? (Alt)-Mais (von  ?welschem Korn?)
>     ? Echter Buchweizen (auch Schwarzes  Welschkorn)
>
>  http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welschkorn
>
> . . .    Otto
>           " The Zen moment..." wk.  of January 01, 2013-
>               _____________________________________
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>
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Message:  8
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 09:12:05 -0500
From: Otto  <otto at schienke.com>
To: SGGEE  <ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org>
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia]  some kind of grain
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On Nov 30, 2013, at 3:16  AM, Bianca Ritz wrote:

> Hello Richard,
>  
>  Welschkorn is maize. See here.
>  http://www.badische-seiten.de/alemannisch/lexikon.php?le=2992
>   
> Bianca


If you have read my first E-letter you are aware I  included (3) URLS
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckwheat
>  http://www.dict.cc/german-english/Schwarzes+Welschkorn.html
>  http://translation.babylon.com/german/Welschkorn/#
and (2) choices Corn  (Maize) and buckwheat (buchweizen)

The German term "korn" refers to  "grain" i.e. "Welshkorn.. . ." Is Welsh 
grain our South American Maize? Or is  it Buckwheat? Both are referred to as 
Welsh grain.

Two definitions  exist, Maize is what we call in English "Corn" of many 
varieties, thanks to  the Mexicans and South  Americans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-08/russia-s-black-earth-farmers-switch
-to-corn-oilseeds-for-profit.html

The  Odessa area does produce corn. Today, Lots.

Buckwheat is a short season  crop and Russia is the world's largest 
producer of it. Note it states over  800,000 tons annually.
Country    Area Harvested (ha)   Production (tonnes)
Russian Federation    843,200   800,380
Two choices exist as to which grain crop was indicated,  1.corn or 2. 
buckwheat.
Here is another  URL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_the_Russian_Empire
What  did they produce in the 1800's in the Odessa areas of cultivation?

Herr  Benert will have to do more research to discover which one was 
intended by his  query.  I also am now curious. I am not that familiar with the 
Odessa  area farming practices.



. . .   Otto
" The Zen moment..." wk. of January 01, 2013-
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"Answers out there . . .  Seeking  us."



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