[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 125, Issue 8

BruceB2332 at aol.com BruceB2332 at aol.com
Thu Oct 10 21:15:59 PDT 2013


My  grandmother's maiden name ws Krueger.
Her first name was Lydia, and her parents names were Wilhelm Krueger, also  
Fredrich, and Henrietta Badke Krueger. She was married to Gottlieb Braun, 
whose  parents names were Michael Braun and Mathilda nee Doepner Braun. ARe 
any of  these names familiar to anyone?
Bruce Braun
 
 
In a message dated 10/10/2013 2:00:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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Today's  Topics:

1. Question for those that know DNA  (gswilson19 at aol.com)
2. the name Bloch in Dorofejewka (Linda  Bowen)
3. Re: Pabianice microfilms (Gerald  Klatt)


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Message:  1
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 17:05:19 -0400 (EDT)
From:  gswilson19 at aol.com
To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
Subject:  [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Question for those that know DNA
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I have a question about a match on  FTDNA.  On my male Krueger line , and 
another person's Ritter line, it  says on 25 markers they are 2 steps 
removed, on 37 markers 3 steps, and on 67  3 steps.  Is this a significant match 
even though they have different  last  names?


Gail

























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Message:  2
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 16:37:39 -0500
From: Linda Bowen  <lindakbowen at cox.net>
To: ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org
Subject:  [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] the name Bloch in Dorofejewka
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I am at this point grasping at  straws.

My Grandfather Theodor Bloch was born in Dorofejewka in  1891.
His father was August Bloch and Mother Emelie Stebner.

The  Bloch/Stebner marriage record on LDS film is just an index and 
August's  brother Gustav's marriage record also is  just an index
So looking at  those did not help.



I found   a  Freiderich  Wilhelm August Bloch in a family tree on 
ancestry. It appears  to  have been submitted from Germany
where these people died.   (  Brandenburg)

This Frederich was born in Kossebude, Turek, Poland in  1862

His parents were August Bloch and Susanne Stibbe.
VKP records  has two more children born to this Bloch/Stibbe marriage, 
one born   in Marianna Michalowka and one in Dorofejewka.

Frederich married a  Euphrosyne Rosenke (B . Dorofejewka 1864)
They had 8 children between1885  and 1901.
The first two born in Dorofejewka and the rest listed  in  Shitomir.
3 names given these children (August Theodore, Olga, and Alwine)  were 
also names used in my grandfather's immediate family.

It seems  to me these families often kept using many of the same names

Perhaps  this  Friederich  might be a brother of my August  Bloch.


I thought I might try to find records for this area in  Poland.

So, I have a  question for you  experienced  researchers.
Is this too big a leap, especially since Bloch is such a  common name.?

I was thinking that relatives often moved together and  these communities 
were not that  large.











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Message:  3
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 09:42:15 -0700
From: "Gerald Klatt"  <gerald.klatt at shaw.ca>
To: "Jan Textor"  <textor_jan at hotmail.com>, "Bernd"
<ben.angel at t-online.de>,     <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
Subject: Re:  [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Pabianice microfilms
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Thanks Jan

I had encountered those dates too  and questioned them. Thanks for 
explaining 
why they exist.

Now...  how are most of you dealing with how to record them? Are you 
showing 
both  dates in your database? Or, are you showing just one or the other 
(Julian  or Gregorian) and making a notation Old Style (OS) or New Style 
(NS) 
with  the one you selected?

Regards,

Gerald


----- Original  Message ----- 
From: "Jan Textor" <textor_jan at hotmail.com>
To:  "Bernd" <ben.angel at t-online.de>;  
<ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 08,  2013 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Pabianice  microfilms





Hello Bernd,

The first date (23 Apr  1846) was following the Julian calendar  
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar),
used by the Russians  during that period, while the second date (5 May 
1846) 
followed the  Gregorian calendar
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar) which  was and is used 
by 
the western world.

The equivalent christening  dates are 24 Apr and 6 May, 1846.

Hope this helps.
Jan  Textor

> From: ben.angel at t-online.de
> To:  ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 16:10:25  +0200
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Pabianice  microfilms
>
> Hello,
> thank you for the Link with the  Pabianice records. I have a question now:
>
> in some birth- and  death records I can find two dates. For example:  
birth
> 1846  number 79
>
>  
http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.php?ar=3&zs=1615d&sy=1846&kt=1&plik=079-082.jpg
>
>  birth of Luiza Engelhorn, was the birth on 23rd of April and christening 
 
> on
> 5th of May, or what is the meaning of this two  dates?
>
> Thank you for any reply.
>
> Bernd  Engelhorn
>
> www.engelhorn-ahnen.de
>
>  -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- 
> From: Jan Textor
> Sent:  Sunday, October 06, 2013 7:52 PM
> To: Rose Ingram ;  ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Subject: Re:  [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Pabianice microfilms
>
> Hello  Rose,
>
> The Lutheran Pabianice Church records for the period  1827-1912 have been
> published online here:
>  http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/ar3-zs1615d
>
> Hope this  helps.
> Jan Textor
>
> > From:  roseingram at shaw.ca
> > To:  ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013  17:44:27 -0700
> > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Pabianice  microfilms
> >
> > Does anyone have access to Pabianice Film  #714495?
> >
> > Rose Ingram
> >
> >  Poland, L?dz, Pabianice (Pabianice) - Church records
> > Akta  urodzen, malzenstw, zgon?w 1856-1862 -  FHL INTL Film [ 714495 ]
>  >
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