[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Scheppel village
Katrin Hanko
katrin at bokser.ee
Thu Jan 2 22:22:50 PST 2014
Hi!
Sure. The church books are available at the Saaga web-page, which is a collection of digitized records of National Archives of Estonia and Tallinn City Archve. First you have to sign in, it's free of charge and available for everyone. http://www.ra.ee/dgs/explorer.php
The parish member list of the Peetrimõisa German congregation starts here: http://www.ra.ee/dgs/_purl.php?shc=TLA.31.2.23:3
It was the compact colony (three villages in fact as far as I remember) of Germans from Wolhynia, Poland, etc., in south-east of Estonia.
And there were other German immigrants, they did not form such a compact colony, but used to live scattered in the areas of Palamuse, Äksi, Sangla, etc.
There are some links I have found about them so far:
http://www.ra.ee/dgs/_purl.php?shc=EAA.1261.1.649:30
http://www.ra.ee/dgs/_purl.php?shc=EAA.1266.1.668:35
http://www.ra.ee/dgs/_purl.php?shc=EAA.1266.1.668:2
http://www.ra.ee/dgs/_purl.php?shc=EAA.1261.1.649:28
http://www.ra.ee/dgs/_purl.php?shc=EAA.1261.1.649:36
http://www.ra.ee/dgs/_purl.php?shc=EAA.1261.1.649:46
http://www.ra.ee/dgs/_purl.php?shc=EAA.1266.1.668:26
http://www.ra.ee/dgs/_purl.php?shc=EAA.1266.1.668:27
http://www.ra.ee/dgs/_purl.php?shc=EAA.1261.1.649:21
http://www.ra.ee/dgs/_purl.php?shc=EAA.1261.1.649:29
Best regards
Katrin
----- Original Message -----
From: kitchur at mymts.net
To: Katrin Hanko ; Bernd ; Jerry Frank
Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 10:47 PM
Subject: RE: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Scheppel village
Katrin, can you supply the weblink to these sites that you are referring to?
> From: katrin at bokser.ee
> To: ben.angel at t-online.de; franklyspeaking at shaw.ca
> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 20:59:55 +0200
> CC: ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Scheppel village
>
> Dear Jerry, dear Bernd,
>
> thank you for your replies!
>
> Jerry, I can read Cyrillic text indeed. There is no doubt that this Scheppel
> is a place name. The sentence says "... born in the village Scheppel in
> Prussia...". I have tried Schöppel, Schappel, Scheppeldorf, etc. but with
> no better success. So your suggestions of Scheppelwitz or Schepelse or
> Czaple (suggested by Edelgard) or another Czaple (suggested by Frank) are
> perfect options. It seems that I have to wait for more church books of
> Lask/Zdunska Wola to be published on internet (there are only records from
> 1871 and 1872) - perhaps there will be an answer for me :) Thank you all
> very much!
>
> By the way - for the period of appr. 1820 ~ 1840 there are a lot of records
> to be found in Mikolajewice Roman Catholic church books. The Germans
> residing in villages like Chorzeszow, Jesionna, Ludowinka, Huta Janowska,
> etc., used to go to Mikolajewice before switching to Lask Ewangelical church
> some time in 1840-1850. I have found a lot of valuable information there.
>
> And other thing which could be interesting to all - at the beginning of 20th
> century some German families (from Wolhynia and from Poland among other
> parts of Russian Empire) came to Estonia and established 3-4 small German
> colonies. You can find their records in local church books, they are
> available on internet. Please feel free to ask me, if you need some
> guidance.
>
> Best regards
> Katrin
> Tallinn, Estonia
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bernd" <ben.angel at t-online.de>
> To: "Jerry Frank" <franklyspeaking at shaw.ca>; "Katrin Hanko"
> <katrin at bokser.ee>
> Cc: <ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 4:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Scheppel village
>
>
> Hello Jerry, hello Katrin,
>
> what do you think about Schepelse (Scheipelse) in Niedersachsen. It belongs
> today to Eicklingen. Look here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eicklingen.
>
> Best regards
> Bernd Engelhorn
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> From: Jerry Frank
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 3:06 PM
> To: Katrin Hanko
> Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Scheppel village
>
> Since you are from Estonia, you are probably fluent in reading Cyrillic.
> However, I must ask - is it possible you are reading a surname rather than a
> place name? A general search indicates that it appears very commonly as a
> surname and not at all as a place name. I also tried Schoeppel as a variant
> spelling (and Czeppel as a Polish variant) and got the same results.
>
> Having said that, this site http://kartenmeister.com/preview/databaseuwe.asp
> does offer Scheppelwitz as a place name in Prussia. It is the closest match
> I could find. Might be worth at least trying a search in that region since
> nothing else seems possible. Also checked the Ellis Island records. No one
> showed Scheppel as a place of origin but a couple did show Scheppelwitz
> again.
>
>
> Jerry
> Calgary, AB
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Katrin Hanko" <katrin at bokser.ee>
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org
> Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2014 11:04:23 PM
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Scheppel village
>
> Hello,
>
> My 4th great-grandmother Dorota Frank, nee Kutzner died in 1872 in Jesionna,
> Lask at the age of 75. Her death record is to be found here:
> http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.php?ar=3&zs=1553d&sy=1872&kt=3&plik=047-050.jpg
> - record No. 48.
>
> It says that she was born in the village Шеппель in Prussia, which would be
> 'Scheppel' if transliterated. But I have no idea where this village could
> have been situated. I have found only "Scheppel / Dorf auf dem Westerwald im
> Amt Siegen" in "Wetterauischer Geographus:....." by Johann Hermann Dielhelm,
> but this seams to be not the right place as it is far from Prussia. Besides
> that - I cannot find any other source (e. g. old maps) indicating that this
> village even existed or where it was.
>
> I'd be grateful for any suggestion that could help me to find out where the
> Kutzner family came from.
>
> Best regards
>
> Katrin
>
> Tallinn, Estonia
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