[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 164, Issue 13

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Fri Jan 13 12:40:04 PST 2017


Where would I be able to find birth records for Jakubkowo Lasin  from the 1890s 
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Today's Topics:

   1. some digitised books on German emigration (Helen Gillespie)
   2. Re: Trying to find more records (Manfred Hensel)
   3. Re: Trying to find more records (Irene K?nig)


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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 18:44:27 -0500
From: Helen Gillespie <gilleh23 at gmail.com>
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Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] some digitised books on German
	emigration
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*Die Deutsche Auswanderung*  by A. Schroter   dated 1880  - stats and info
on German emigration to North America and other destinations.

https://archive.org/stream/diedeutscheauswa00schr#page/n0/mode/1up
*Die deutsche ?berseeische Auswanderung seit 1871*, unter besonderer
Ber?cksichtigung der Auswanderung nach den Vereinigten Staaten von
Nordamerika. Ein volkswirtschaftlicher Beitrag zur Geschichte der deutschen
Auswanderung   a 1912 Dissertation by Fritz Joseephy of Berlin

https://archive.org/stream/diedeutscheauswa00schr#page/n0/mode/1up


Helen


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Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 13:20:27 +0100
From: Manfred Hensel <manfred.hensel at koeln.de>
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Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Trying to find more records
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Am 12.01.2017 um 20:54 schrieb Irene K?nig:
> According to the death record Gottlieb ARNHOLD was born in abt. 1812 
> in Brzeziny, a town about 20 km east of Lodz with a highly developed 
> clothing industry.  Gottlieb himself was a cloth-maker. His wife 
> Wilhelmine WALDON was born in abt. 1816 in "Prussia".
>
> Gottlieb ARNHOLD died 1890 in Omelno and was burried by Johann BANSEN, 
> a brother of his son-in-law Ferdinand BANSEN.
> http://agadd.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%2060/pages/PL_1_439_60_0008.htm 
>
>
> Wilhelmine WALDON died 1891 in ? and was burried by her son-in-law 
> August ERGANG.
> http://agadd.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%2060/pages/PL_1_439_60_0169.htm 
>

I would think about the last name of Wilhelmine ARNHOLD, her maiden name 
should be read as WALDAN,
in both mentioned records I see an "a" instead of the "o".

A little bit surprising the fact, that the record about the death of 
Gottlieb ARNHOLD on 21th / 23rd of February 1890 says that his wife 
Wilhelmine is dead
("... husband of the deceased Wilhelmine born Waldan")
while the record about the death of Wilhelmine ARNHOLD the next year on 
3rd / 5th of April 1891 says "widowed"

I assume this is because all the records were written later and not in time.

Manfred


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Manfred Hensel
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Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 20:39:00 +0100
From: Irene K?nig <kopetzke at gmx.net>
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Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Trying to find more records
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Manfred,

I  did notice the surprising "... husband of the deceased Wilhelmine 
born Waldan" in Gottlieb's death record but it is clearly a mistake. The 
coloumn "single, married, widowed or divorced" shows Gottlieb as 
verheiratet/married.

As for Wilhelmine's maiden name, I found WALDAN, WALDON, WALDO and 
WALDAU. Difficult to says which is the "right one". I've opted for 
WALDON because Frydrych WALDON and Wilhelm WALDON, both cloth-makers, 
were living in Brzeziny at the same time like Gottlieb ARNHOLD and his 
wife.

Irene

Am 13.01.2017 um 13:20 schrieb Manfred Hensel:
> I would think about the last name of Wilhelmine ARNHOLD, her maiden 
> name should be read as WALDAN,
> in both mentioned records I see an "a" instead of the "o".
>
> A little bit surprising the fact, that the record about the death of 
> Gottlieb ARNHOLD on 21th / 23rd of February 1890 says that his wife 
> Wilhelmine is dead
> ("... husband of the deceased Wilhelmine born Waldan")
> while the record about the death of Wilhelmine ARNHOLD the next year 
> on 3rd / 5th of April 1891 says "widowed"



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