[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Re: Ger-Poland-Volhynia digest, Vol 1 #395 - 4 msgs
elinorb at gv.net
Wed Mar 5 14:15:26 PST 2003
Ursula, Welcome to the club! My family were Baptists also...best
--Get a copy of"In the Midst of Wolves" by Don Miller..Its a history of
German Baptists in Volhynia, Russia..where most of them lived. Don has a
web site with details. He also leads a yearly trip to Volhynia and visiting
of (mostly) Baptist villages. I went with him in June of last year.
Search website of SGGEE (So of German Genealogy in Eastern Europe) By far
the best reference for your people. They focus on Germans from Poland and
Elinor Dether Barnes elinorb at gv.net
Call me if you have questions (530)273-0502
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> 1. Baptists (Ursula Bachman)
> 2. Reply from Polish archives (Ednadill at aol.com)
> 3. Fwd: From Russia - KLEINSCHMIDT (Jerry Frank)
> 4. Re: Haupt/Mincho family search (Edelgard Strobel)
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:20:04 -0700
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> From: ursula.bachman at ei.educ.ab.ca (Ursula Bachman)
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Baptists
> Well you just never know what you find out after 7 years of research! My
> family failed to mention that a part of my family (Rose) were Baptists...
> So how would I find records for the Baptists in Volhynia?
> Ursula Bachman
> Message: 2
> From: Ednadill at aol.com
> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 20:13:09 EST
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Reply from Polish archives
> Can anyone translate this reply letter for me?
> Thank you.
> Erik Dill
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> From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?AP_W=B3oclawek?=" <apwloclawek at poczta.onet.pl>
> To: <Ednadill at aol.com>
> Subject: Odp: Urodzenia(birth) and Malzenstwa(marriage) record request
> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:27:55 +0100
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> Prosze Pana,
> Archiwum Panstwowe w Toruniu Oddzial we Wloclawku informuje, ze w zasobie
> swoim przechowuje akta metrykalne parafii ewangelicko-augsburskiej Lipno z
> 1808-1901 i ze istnieje mozlwiosc prowadzenia dla Pana poszukiwan
> dotyczacych Pana rodziny.
> badania tego typu wymagaja jednak znacznego nakladu pracy i zgodnie z
> obowiazujacymi przepisami moga byc wykonane tylko odplatnie.
> Jesli bedzie chcial Pan uzyskac szczegolowe informacje o kosztach i
> poszukiwan to prosimy o przyslanie na nasz adres normalna poczta pisma. My
> odpowiemy na Pana zapytania oraz przeslemy kosztorys wstepny, w ktorym
> podane wysokosci pobieranych oplat.
> Archiwum Panstwowe
> ul. ks. Skorupki 4
> 87-800 Wloclawek
> Nasz znak sprawy 843-10/03
> Tomasz Dziki
> Od: Ednadill at aol.com
> Do: apwloclawek at poczta.onet.pl
> Temat: Urodzenia(birth) and Malzenstwa(marriage) record request
> Data: 10 lutego 2003 23:56
> I am looking for a birth record for the birth of my great-grandfather
> Emil Dill/Dyll born in 1889 in Teodorowo. The record should be recorded
> the Ewangelick records at Lipno.
> I am also looking for a birth record for the birth of my great-uncle
> Johann Dill/Dyll born in 1885 in Teodorowo. This record should also be
> recorded in the Ewangelick records at Lipno.
> Lastly, I am looking for a marriage record for the marriage of my
> great-grandparents Michal Dill/Dyll and Maryana Miller, (exact date
> unknown)-1875 to 1885? This record should also be recorded in the
> records at Lipno.
> Please advise me as to how much per copy each record will cost and
> I should send the money.
> Thank you very much for any help you can give me.
> Erik W. Dill
> Ednadill at aol.com
> 177 Daniel Peck Road
> East Haddam, CT 06423
> Szukasz banku bez prowizji ?
> mBank - zaloz konto
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 20:20:29 -0700
> From: Jerry Frank <jkfrank at shaw.ca>
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Fwd: From Russia - KLEINSCHMIDT
> The following is a query from Russia forwarded from another ger-rus list.
> Please respond directly to Vadim at the address below rather than to me.
> >Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 05:12:07 +0300
> >From: Vadim Rogge <rogge at ok.ru>
> >Subject: From Russia - KLEINSCHMIDT
> >Sender: Germans from Russia Genealogy and Family Research
> > <GR-GENEALOGY at LISTSERV.NODAK.EDU>
> >Moscow, Wednesday, March 5, 2003
> >Dear Subscribers,
> >I have received the letter from elderly lady, Tamara GUMBATOVA (Mrs),
> >city Baku
> >(Azerbaijan, Caspian Sea). She researches a history of lutheran church
> >russian germans in
> >city Baku and now she looking for her roots with surname KLEINSCHMIDT.
> >Unfortunately, she does not know the English language and I have
> >translated this letter for
> >you. I shall help in her research and I shall translate yours e-mails on
> >Russian for her.
> >Sincerely, Vadim Rogge (Mr) Russia, Moscow, rogge at ok.ru (Sorry
> >for my English :)
> >Translated letter from Russian to English
> >My name is Tamara GUMBATOVA (Mrs),
> >I am looking for my roots and my lost ancestors and relatives.
> >Unfortunately, many dates and events I keep in my memory only. Records
> >lost. Time ... .
> >Help me, please.
> >Probably, my ancestors were from EAST PRUSSIA, from vicinities of city
> >DANZIG (now, city
> >GDANSK, Poland). I know, they lived at 1890 in city BIALA (Sedletskaja
> >province, Russian
> >Empire), near city WARSAW. (possible, now it is city BIALO-PODLJASKA,
> >Poland, border of Poland
> >and Russia). My ancestors were the lutherans.
> >In the beginning of 20 century, they have moved with children to city
> > My great-grandfather - KLEINSCHMIDT WILHELM GUSTAV. (in Russian -
> > Vilgelm Gustavovich)
> >Born on December 27 (December 15 of new style) 1845.
> >Died on March 12 (February 27 of new style) 1917 (city KIEV, Russia).
> >He worked in branch of German firm "ZINGER" in city KIEV (Russia),
> >probably, in 1900-1917 years.
> > My great-grandmother - ANNA (in Russian - Anna), nee, in Russian -
> > "FELAUF", probably, her
> >surname was "von LAUF", because I know, she was from any nobiliary
> >Born in 1841 (city BIALA, Sedletskaja province, Russia)
> >Died in 1920 (city of KIEV, Russia, she is buried in city KIEV)
> >In 1920, our distant Russian cognate read "records about death"
> >(Evangelical - lutheran church,
> >Kiev, Russia) and has written a German maiden name of my
> >Anna by the Russian
> >letters, therefore I do not know a spelling of her surname in German. The
> >variants the of
> >maiden surname of Anna are: FEHLAU, LAUFF, von LAUFF. Other variants I do
> >not know.
> >Their children:
> >a son GUSTAV (in Russian - Gustav) (? - ?)
> >a daughter EMILIE (in Russian - Emilija) (? - ?)
> >a daughter ELISABETH (in Russian - Elizaveta)
> >Born in 1879.
> >Died - ?
> >She has left Russia together with the husband REINHOLD (his name in
> >Russian - Rejngold, but
> >I don't know his surname) in 1923-1926 years and came to AMERICA,
> >probably, to city NEW YORK.
> >In our family archive there is a photo (from America, from photographer's
> >studio), on which
> >is written - " SYDNEY, Kenosha, Wis. " - what is it?
> >a son JULIUS (in Russian - Julius)
> >Born in 1892.
> >Died - ?
> >He has left Russia together with the wife and daughter (I do not know
> >their names) and came to
> >city GLASGOW (ENGLAND) till 1926 (it is possible in 1923-1926 years).
> >a daughter NATALIE (in Russian - Natalija) - my grandmother.
> >Born in 1880 (1883?) (city BIALOSTOK, Russia)
> >Died in 1919 of a typhus (city KIEV, Russia, she is buried in city KIEV)
> >a daughter ALBERTINE (in Russian - Albertina) (she has the daughter, in
> >Russian - Asja)
> >Born in 1894 (city Biala, Russia)
> >Died in 1979 (city of Kiev, Russia, she is buried in city Kiev)
> >I shall be thankful for any information and any advice.
> >Sincerely, Tamara GUMBATOVA (Mrs). Baku, Azerbaijan.
> >Please, send your e-mail to Vadim Rogge rogge at ok.ru
> Jerry Frank - Calgary, Alberta
> jkfrank at shaw.ca
> Message: 4
> From: "Edelgard Strobel" <udostrobel at surfeu.de>
> To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Haupt/Mincho family search
> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:22:59 +0100
> Hi Janice,
> as I understand Petra's email from Dec. 2002 she had no further infos
> the other children, only that what her Aunt remembered:
> "My ggrandmother was Marie Haupt. nee Kinas. I don't know anything further
> from her.
> children (the exact order my Aunt couln't say anymore - she is the
> of Bertha)
> Robert born 5. Dec. 1888
> Emilie married Bandof
> Bertha married Weber born on 02. March 1891
> Paul married with a Natalie ( died in 2000) two children, the name of
> son was Richard, daughter ?
> Ida (died very young) son was brought up from Bertha
> Paul and Ida are the youngest children"
> I've translated your email and sent it to her. I hope she'll reply.
> For Al Muth:
> Could you find further infos?
> In December you wrote:
> "I have ordered a film with
> marriages 1871-1895, and I am sure that the marriage record that Petra
> needs will be there. Perhaps we will know in late January."
> Greetings from Germany,
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <JSchu9014 at aol.com>
> To: <Ger-Poland-Volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 5:24 AM
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] RE: German, Poland, Volhynia - Haupt/Mincho
> family search
> > A short time ago there was a woman looking for the Haupt family, I
> > her Grandfather Robert Haupt born in 1888 to Christian Haupt and Marie
> > in Konin or Lazinska. I tried contacting her through a cousin living in
> > Germany asking if she had any information about the other children but
> > did not respond. My great grandfather was Christian Haupt born around
> > One of the eight children she mentioned was named Christian.
> > My Grandfather Edward Haupt was born in Bubno/Gluckstal, Volhynia in
> > His god mother was Wilhelmine Kinas.
> > Was anyone able to help her or did she divulge additional information
> > regarding her family? I have hit a brick wall in searching for my
> > ggrandfather Christian Haupt and his wife Wilhelmine Mincho. We believe
> > Haupt family may have originated in what is called Memelland, moved down
> > Koenigsberg and then proceeded further into Prussia. I have found this
> > by tracking areas where I have found the Haupt family name.
> > If anyone can add new information or direct me where to look, it would
> > definitely be appreciated.
> > Janice Schultz
> > Searching: HAUPT and MINCHO
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