[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Villiage of Nietrzeba

[Greg Mason]

Dave is correct. Fortunately I have a 1/50,000 map of the area from 
1974 and the village is on this map.  To locate it on a modern 
1/100,000 map, it is 2.5 kms directly south of Jezioro Oborskie, right 
next to the village of Padnietrzeba, which is about 6 kms due west of 
the main road between Lipno and Rypin.
Greg Mason
On Wednesday, March 10, 2004, at 11:58  AM, Dave Obee wrote:

> The proper name is Nietrzeba. It's about 12 km north of Lipno.
>
> Nietrzeba, osada mlynska, gmina Chrostkowo, Powait polityczny Rypin,
> Wojwodztwo Warszawa, Poczta i telegrapf (telefon) Wildno, Stacja kolj z
> odlegloascia km -- Lipno Plockie 12, autobuz linja Rypin-Kikol, and 
> most
> importantly urzedy parafjalne Chrostkowo r, which is of course rz-kat 
> or
> catholic.
>
> This is all from the Skorowidz Miejscowosci Rzeczpospolitej Polskiej,
> published in 1933-34.
>
> Nietrzeba is not shown in the modern 1:200,000 atlases, or even on the
> modern 1:100,000 grid map that covers that area, so either the name has
> changed or it has disappeared.
>
> Dave Obee
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Frank" <FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca>
> To: <Ednadill at aol.com>; <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Villiage of Nietrzeba
>
>
>> Erik sent me a copy of a couple of the records.  They have about the
> nicest
>> script I have ever seen on any record coming out of Poland.  The place
> name
>> is very clearly written as Nietrzeba.
>>
>> At this time, using several resources, I have not been able to find 
>> such a
>> place in the Lipno region.  There is no question about it being 
>> located
> 166
>> miles from Lipno.  That simply would never happen on a regular basis. 
>>  An
>> exception would be the recording in a marriage or death record of a 
>> place
>> of birth.  However, that would be contained within the record in
>> context.  The example records show Nietrzeba in the margin, indicating
> that
>> it is a local village.
>>
>> I did a general GOOGLE search for Nietrzeba.  It appears to be a
> relatively
>> common Polish surname.  It is possible, therefore, that this is the 
>> estate
>> name of a local nobleman which only existed for a short period of 
>> time.  I
>> am looking at some other sources and will report back if I find 
>> anything.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 09:29 AM 09/03/2004 -0500, Ednadill at aol.com wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>     Just a quick question.  I looked at more Lipno parish films
>>> yesterday.  I
>>> came up with a considerable amount with the village listed as 
>>> Nietrzeba.
> I
>>> looked this village up on the ShtetlSeeker and the only one I found 
>>> was
> 51
>>> 03 N
>>> 21 54 E, 166.1 miles from Lipno.  Unless there is another Nietrzeba, 
>>> why
>>> wouldn't these records have been recorded in Warsaw or closer 
>>> parishes.
> The
>>> Michal Dyll that died on September 16 1855 in Nietrzeba, resided in
> Komorowo.
>>>     Any suppositions would be helpful.
>>> Regards,
>>> Erik Dill
>>
>> Jerry Frank - Calgary, Alberta
>> FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca
>>
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