[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Family names question - Daniel Becker

[Rose Ingram]

Lexi

The place on the draft registration card seems to be Novin, Wolilien, 
Russia - probably as misspelling of Wolhynia.  - This is not in the Black 
Sea area.

On the 1909 Ellis Island manifest Caroline is 37 years and 'left behind' her 
brother Gottlieb Zottermann (or something like that) in Germany.

I appears Caroline Becker and family were meeting up with her husband 
Wilhelm Becker in Eugene, Oregon.  It also appears they were travelling with 
a friend of the family, Gottlieb Gerth, going to the same place.

>From this bit of information I would say the father is Wilhelm Becker and 
mother is Caroline Zottermann?
Do you have the marriage records between Daniel and Rosella - his parents 
names maybe records on it, or in the orginal church records.  This woulld 
confirm the parents names.  Do you have the death record of Daniel as 
registered - this may also give his parents names and confirm the link.

Rose Ingram.


>From Lexi,
> Jerry:
>
> First where did you find all this additional information?  I found the 
> Ellis Island record, but it just listed names, so I assumed everyone 
> traveling together with the last name of Becker was related, but not 
> necessarily mother and children. But as to the $1000 and going to Oregon 
> and the rest, I hadn't found that. Clearly there is more to the Ellis 
> Island records than I found.
>
> I found Daniel in Kimball, NE in 1917 which is where he registered for the 
> WW1 draft (it looks like Novin, Nikolaiv, Russia on the part where he 
> signed where he was born), and saying he had a mother to support. Then I 
> found him in the 1920 census in South Dakota, which made sense as he 
> married a Rosella Schenkenberger (who had 10 -13 siblings!), who lived in 
> Emmons, North Dakot, but were mostly born in Bon Homme South Dakota  (her 
> parents came from Russia also, mother was born in Baliev (sp?).
>
> Daniel and Rosella were in California sometime in the 1920's as my dad and 
> oldest aunt were born there, and then in Eugene for the 1930's Census.  I 
> have found Reinhard and Hermann in census and registration cards, but only 
> after they came to the US. I don't have any information on Daniel's 
> parents, but assumed Caroline was his mother as a starting place. My 
> mother remembers mention of them being Lutherans, and I remember hearing 
> that they came from a part of Russia that went back and forth between 
> Poland, but they definitely spoke German. I never remembered hearing 
> Daniel's parents names, and neither does my mother.  My father is dead, 
> and I am tracking down his sisters to see what they remember.
>
> I am a newbie and have just started researching.  I have a copy of Greg 
> Rath's book Black Sea Germans in the Dakotas. I've been to ancestry.com, 
> familysearch.org, all the German-Russian heritage sites I can find, and am 
> overwhelmed with branches to search as I hadn't been able to even find 
> Daniel's city of birth.  At this point I am emailing and mailing my few 
> living aunts to see what they can remember.
>
> Any pointers to where to find additional information, such as what you've 
> provided, would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Lexi
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Jerry Frank [mailto:FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Sat 8/26/2006 6:40 AM
> To: Donne, Alexsana; ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Family names question
>
>
>
> Hi Lexi.  Welcome to the list.
>
> Lets review some of the clues before responding to the question.
>
> Daniel's mother, Caroline, is travelling alone on this boat with 8
> children !!!!  ranging in age from 3 to 15 - from oldest, Reinhard,
> Daniel, Albertine, Gustav, Stephan, Johann, Hermann and Auguste.  If
> they all survived to adulthood, bearing children, you have a very
> extensive family from which to obtain info.  :-)
>
> The 6 oldest children were born in Nowin, Russia.  The 2 youngest in
> Konojad / Kossojad (?), Germany.  Caroline is 37 years old (= born
> c.1872) in Draschbin (sp?), Podole, Russia.
>
> The family has $1000 with them (seems rather wealthy compared to
> others).  They are travelling to Eugene, Oregon to be with Wilhelm
> Becker.  But how does he connect?  The oldest child, Reinhard reports
> that this is his uncle.  All the other children show him as
> father.  On the other hand, he is said to be a "friend" of
> Caroline.   So is Caroline in fact the mother of these
> children?  Caroline is noted as having a pockmarked face.
>
>
> Before we make recommendations for the search, is there anything else
> you can tell us about the family?
>
> What religion were they - typically Lutheran, or Baptist?  I am
> assuming they were not Jewish as typically they would have been noted
> as such on the passenger list.
>
> What do you know about Daniel's parents if anything?
>
>
>
> Jerry Frank - Calgary, Alberta
> FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca
>
>
>
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