[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] surnames: Boss, Hoffman (Rose Ingram)

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Thu Feb 5 16:43:12 PST 2009


Al/Marlene,
 
 I find it interesting that you mention the "Boss" surname and then  tie it 
in to a "Gotz" marriage.  As Rose knows (thank you for your help  over the 
years!) I have that exact combination in my family tree.   Spellings change based 
on how the name was heard and many  become quite  mangled in the process.  My 
last name Busse (bus see) would have been  pronounced Boosa and maybe heard as 
Boss by the immigration agents.  It's a  wonder anyone can make connections 
if you think of it!  They were from the  Gostynin area near the Vistula River 
and married into the Goetz family from the  Plock area just across the river.  
This location had a big German  settlement (aka colonists)  from the 
1700's-WW1 and I suggest you check out  "Upstream Vistula"  which does a fine job of 
taking you back in  time.   It was Soviet controlled as you say but better put 
as under  Russian rule during that time period.   We like to call ourselves  
Eastern European because in reality we are Germans hailing from Russian Poland  
and that all gets confusing!
 
If you find a link, I'd be more than happy to share what I have and my  
suggestion is to look at the greater Gostynin area as a start.  Rose...what  are 
your thoughts?  Shettle seeker is also valuable to find old villages if  you 
remember any names.
 
Don Busse
 
 
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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Surnames:  BOSS, HOFFMAN (Rose Ingram)
2. Re:  Surnames:  BOSS, HOFFMAN (Gary Warner)
3. Evangelisch  (Kerstin  Petersen)


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Message:  1
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:39:49 -0800
From: "Rose Ingram"  <roseingram at shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia]  Surnames:  BOSS, HOFFMAN
To: "Al and Marlene Dixon"  <al_dixon at shaw.ca>,
<ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
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Al/Marlene

Do you  have any information (family lore) that may cite another village or 
City close  to where the family lived.  

Was the family name Boss on the  immigration documents or was it possibly 
Buss or Busse or Boese?

When  did Grandfather Edward come in the USA.

Rose Ingram
-----  Original Message ----- 
From: Al and Marlene Dixon 
To:  ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org 
Sent: Monday, February 02,  2009 7:40 PM
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Surnames: BOSS,  HOFFMAN


I am searching for information on the BOSS  family.  Jacob Boss, Great 
Grandfather - no info on birth or death  dates.  Married Efrasina (Rosina) HOFFMAN.  
She died in Poland  around 1900.  My Grandfather is Edward BOSS born Sept 28, 
1889 and  siblings William August Boss born May 10, 1886, Fred BOSS born in 
1876 and  Karoline BOSS born Jan 27, 1884.  She died May 13, 1967 and was 
married  to Friedrich Gotz.  I believe she might be buried in Sobienie.  My  
Grandfather Edward Boss and his brothers immigrated to the USA.   Eventually my 
Grandfather moved to Manitoba, Canada.  On immigration  papers he lists his place 
of birth as Zubena which I believe is  Sobienie.  I do not know what religion 
they would have been part of at  that time.  On similar documents he and his 
brothers list their parents  as being Russian or from the Soviet Union.  I am 
beginning to understand  some of the history of Poland and believe that would 
be consistent with the  history of Poland at the time of his parents births.  

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Message:  2
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:17:48 -0800
From: Gary Warner  <gary at warnerengineering.com>
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia]  Surnames:  BOSS, HOFFMAN
To: Rose Ingram  <roseingram at shaw.ca>
Cc:  ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
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Al and Marlene,

In order to  help you more, it would be nice if you could state the 
following about  each name you list, so far as you know it.

1.  Where the person  was born and about when

2.  Where the person married, and to whom  and when

3.  Who were the children of each person

4.   Who were the parents of each person.

Gary Warner


Rose Ingram  wrote:
> Al/Marlene
>
> Do you have any information (family  lore) that may cite another village or 
City close to where the family  lived.  
>
> Was the family name Boss on the immigration  documents or was it possibly 
Buss or Busse or Boese?
>
> When did  Grandfather Edward come in the USA.
>
> Rose  Ingram
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>    From: Al and Marlene Dixon 
>   To:  ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org 
>   Sent: Monday,  February 02, 2009 7:40 PM
>   Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia]  Surnames: BOSS, HOFFMAN
>
>
>   I am searching for  information on the BOSS family.  Jacob Boss, Great 
Grandfather - no info  on birth or death dates.  Married Efrasina (Rosina) 
HOFFMAN.  She  died in Poland around 1900.  My Grandfather is Edward BOSS born Sept 
28,  1889 and siblings William August Boss born May 10, 1886, Fred BOSS born 
in  1876 and Karoline BOSS born Jan 27, 1884.  She died May 13, 1967 and was  
married to Friedrich Gotz.  I believe she might be buried in  Sobienie.  My 
Grandfather Edward Boss and his brothers immigrated to the  USA.  Eventually my 
Grandfather moved to Manitoba, Canada.  On  immigration papers he lists his 
place of birth as Zubena which I believe is  Sobienie.  I do not know what 
religion they would have been part of at  that time.  On similar documents he and 
his brothers list their parents  as being Russian or from the Soviet Union.  I 
am beginning to understand  some of the history of Poland and believe that 
would be consistent with the  history of Poland at the time of his parents 
births.   
>
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Message: 3
Date:  Thu, 5 Feb 2009 17:43:08 +0100
From: "Kerstin Petersen"  <kerstin.petersen at mail.dk>
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia]  Evangelisch
To: "Sggee Mailingliste"  <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
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The "Evangelische Kirche"  is a term for the Lutheran and reformed church. 
You can also call it the  Protestant church. "Protestantische Kirche". In the 
northern part of germany  there are mostly protestants and the south germany 
katholics.
The  "Evangelische Kirche" is a christian church in the tradtition of the  
reformation.

You cannot translate "evangelisch" to evangelical. (from  Wikepedia).

Regards
Kerstin  Petersen
Denmark

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