[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 84, Issue 18

Thu May 20 07:57:01 PDT 2010

My grandmother and a friend came to America in 1906 - to the Minnesota/North 
Dakota area.  Grandma never applied for citizenship, and later married and 
many years later divorced.  She wrote to the Naturalization dept prior to 
the divorce and remarriage to make sure she wouldn't be sent back to her 
home country.  They sent a letter saying that when she married she 
automatically became a citizen of the U.S.

Eleanor Haas

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Tober" <getober at hotmail.com>
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>
> As I understand, starting in 1906, women had to apply separately for U.S. 
> citizenship. The best source of info is the Declaration of Intention. The 
> Naturalization Certificate contains very little info.
>
>
>
> Gary Tober
>
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>> Subject: Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 84, Issue 18
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>> 1. hitting a road block (Rosella Mandau)
>> 2. Re: hitting a road block (Hannes Werner)
>> 3. Re: hitting a road block (Gary Warner)
>> 4. Re: hitting a road block (Rose Ingram)
>> 5. Re: My Family (Karen Dorsett) (Marina und Henning Bettich)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:07:05 -0600
>> From: Rosella Mandau <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road block
>> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
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>> Can you please suggest alternative spellings for the surname Karacha.
>>
>> We are looking for Carl and Christena Schaffer (nee Karacha) who came 
>> from
>> Russia to Saskatchewan in 1913. Her surname does not appear in any 
>> archives
>> that we've searched. We believe she had 2 sisters - Kate and Catherine 
>> who
>> also left Russia and settled in North or South Dakota. We have found 
>> Carl's
>> brother Martin on a ship manifest - the Andania, in 1913... but cannot
>> locate the manifest for Carl, Christena and their children. There is no
>> mention of thier exact origin in Russia on any of the documents we have
>> found.
>>
>> We are hoping to identify where in Russia them came from, and to collect
>> more of Christena's family history. She and Carl were both born sometime 
>> in
>> the late 1880's.
>>
>> Thank you for any help you can offer.
>> Rosella Mandau
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:22:15 +0200
>> From: "Hannes Werner" <Hannes.Werner at online.de>
>> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road block
>> To: "Rosella Mandau" <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>,
>> <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
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>> Hello Rosella,
>>
>> two versions:
>>
>> 1. Karcher; depending on pronounciation and with "rolling 'r'" it sounds
>> like karacha
>> 2. Karrasch, also: Karras ; there's a Karras-Schielke connection in 
>> Volynia
>>
>> Hannes
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Rosella Mandau" <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>
>> To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:07 PM
>> Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road block
>>
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 09:11:25 -0700
>> From: Gary Warner <gary at warnerengineering.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road block
>> To: Rosella Mandau <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>
>> Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
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>> Rosella,
>>
>> I am not sure if we can help, but if we can, it will be only if you can
>> give us some more data. If you do not know the exact answers to the
>> questions below, then give approximate answers.
>>
>> 1. Who were Christena's parents?
>>
>> 2. When was Christena born?
>>
>> 3. When were Christena's siblings born?
>>
>> 4. Are you sure that Kate and Catherine were different siblings?
>> Both are the same name root.
>>
>> 5. Do you know if Christena had any brothers or uncles who came to
>> Canada or the USA? If so, what were there names and years of birth?
>> I am not sure if females in the early 1900s got naturalized separately
>> form their husbands. If they did, then a petition for naturalization
>> would give the correct spelling of her surname, and the names of her
>> parents, and where she was born.
>>
>> One thing you need to keep in mind is if you cannot find data on your
>> direct ancestors, then sometimes you can break down the walls if you
>> find out more about the siblings.
>>
>> Gary Warner
>>
>> On 5/19/2010 7:07 AM, Rosella Mandau wrote:
>> > Can you please suggest alternative spellings for the surname Karacha.
>> >
>> > We are looking for Carl and Christena Schaffer (nee Karacha) who came 
>> > from
>> > Russia to Saskatchewan in 1913. Her surname does not appear in any 
>> > archives
>> > that we've searched. We believe she had 2 sisters - Kate and Catherine 
>> > who
>> > also left Russia and settled in North or South Dakota. We have found 
>> > Carl's
>> > brother Martin on a ship manifest - the Andania, in 1913... but cannot
>> > locate the manifest for Carl, Christena and their children. There is no
>> > mention of thier exact origin in Russia on any of the documents we have
>> > found.
>> >
>> > We are hoping to identify where in Russia them came from, and to 
>> > collect
>> > more of Christena's family history. She and Carl were both born 
>> > sometime in
>> > the late 1880's.
>> >
>> > Thank you for any help you can offer.
>> > Rosella Mandau
>> >
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 09:32:55 -0700
>> From: "Rose Ingram" <roseingram at shaw.ca>
>> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road block
>> To: "Rosella Mandau" <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>,
>> <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
>> Message-ID: <003801caf770$ef8921e0$6501a8c0 at duocore>
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>>
>> What about Karasch or Karras or Karass.
>>
>> Rose Ingram
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Rosella Mandau
>> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 7:07 AM
>> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road block
>>
>>
>> Can you please suggest alternative spellings for the surname Karacha.
>>
>> We are looking for Carl and Christena Schaffer (nee Karacha) who came 
>> from
>> Russia to Saskatchewan in 1913. Her surname does not appear in any 
>> archives
>> that we've searched. We believe she had 2 sisters - Kate and Catherine 
>> who
>> also left Russia and settled in North or South Dakota. We have found 
>> Carl's
>> brother Martin on a ship manifest - the Andania, in 1913... but cannot
>> locate the manifest for Carl, Christena and their children. There is no
>> mention of thier exact origin in Russia on any of the documents we have
>> found.
>>
>> We are hoping to identify where in Russia them came from, and to collect
>> more of Christena's family history. She and Carl were both born sometime 
>> in
>> the late 1880's.
>>
>> Thank you for any help you can offer.
>> Rosella Mandau
>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 20:16:08 +0200
>> From: "Marina und Henning Bettich" <henning.bettich at osnanet.de>
>> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] My Family (Karen Dorsett)
>> To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
>> Message-ID: <000601caf77f$5adbec30$1093c490$@bettich at osnanet.de>
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>> Hello Karen,
>>
>> i had one Filwock in my family tree, his name is Gustav Filwock, he was 
>> born
>> on 16. Dez 1922 in Kurgane in Russia and he died on 18, Mar 1994 in
>> Gro?-Gerau in germany.
>> He married Olga born Bettich. Olga was born on 23 Mar 1922 in Novyi
>> Berestovets in the Ukraine.
>> Hope you can use this information at any further time. If you know yet 
>> any
>> relationship to your family please inform me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Mai 2010 21:00
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>> 3. Re: My Family (Gary Warner)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 21:33:55 +1000
>> From: Karen Dorsett <karen.dorsett9 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] My Family
>> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
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>> I am trying to find my Grandfather's family links . I believe from the
>> Gnadenthal area Volhynia. The surname is Filwok (other spellings may be
>> noted Filvok, Fillwack , Fillwok etc even Vielwalk) My Greandfathers
>> brother was Frederich and Sister was Eda. Eda apparently married a Dahlke
>> Thank you for any information.
>> Karen Dorsett (Filwok)
>>
>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:04:12 +0200
>> From: G?nther B?hm <GHBoehm at ish.de>
>> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] My Family
>> To: Wolhynien-Liste <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
>> Message-ID: <4BF2BA7C.90608 at ish.de>
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>> Karen Dorsett schrieb:
>> > I am trying to find my Grandfather's family links . I believe from the
>> > Gnadenthal area Volhynia. The surname is Filwok (other spellings may be
>> > noted Filvok, Fillwack , Fillwok etc even Vielwalk) My Greandfathers
>> > brother was Frederich and Sister was Eda. Eda apparently married a 
>> > Dahlke
>> > Thank you for any information.
>> > Karen Dorsett (Filwok)
>>
>> Hello Karen,
>> supposedly FIELWOK, FIELWOCK or VIELWOCK. The Odessa Digital Library has
>> some of them in Elisabethine, the IGI the marriage of Johann Gottlob
>> VIELWOCK in 1793, Zduny, Krotoschin, Posen province. The origin seems to
>> be in late Pomerania.
>>
>> G?nther
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:33:23 -0700
>> From: Gary Warner <gary at warnerengineering.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] My Family
>> To: Karen Dorsett <karen.dorsett9 at gmail.com>
>> Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
>> Message-ID: <4BF2C153.90605 at warnerengineering.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Karen,
>>
>> You might also want to consider the spellings Villwock, Villwok,
>> Villwoch, Fielwok, Vielwok, Vuellwock, Voellwock, Fuellwock, Fullwock, 
>> etc..
>>
>> Can you give more information, specifically the names and dates and
>> places that you know of people in Volhynia that you seek?
>>
>> Gary Warner
>>
>> On 5/18/2010 4:33 AM, Karen Dorsett wrote:
>> > I am trying to find my Grandfather's family links . I believe from the
>> > Gnadenthal area Volhynia. The surname is Filwok (other spellings may be
>> > noted Filvok, Fillwack , Fillwok etc even Vielwalk) My Greandfathers
>> > brother was Frederich and Sister was Eda. Eda apparently married a 
>> > Dahlke
>> > Thank you for any information.
>> > Karen Dorsett (Filwok)
>> >
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