[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Bettich/Bettig family

Marina und Henning Bettich henning.bettich at osnanet.de
Mon Nov 8 22:12:11 PST 2010 

Hi Jerry,
thanks for your mail.

Yes I had already contact to our Bettich/Bettig family emigrated to USA and
Canada. My grandfather flies 2 times to the USA when I was a little boy. I
had already contact to Markus Wolf who get back from USA to the Ukraine.

Now back to my relatives. Valentin Bettcih (the younger) was born in 1854 in
Solomka, he married Christine Wacker and they lived in Solomka, he was also
buried in 1920 in Solomka ,so I think his father Valentin Bettich (the
older) was born between 1810 and 1830 (my grandfather toild me it should be
in Lask near Lodz, his grandparents told him... Valentin(the older) married
Therese Schubert.

So if I'm right it is possible that Johann Bettich and Rosina Diehle are the
parents of Valentin (the older)

Henning Bettich



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Today's Topics:

   1. DNA testing for Family Tree (maireclare at aol.com)
   2. Re: FW: Re: KRUEGER + JESSE	from	EduardoKommers
      (tomjess64 at comcast.net)
   3. Searching for Bettich, Bettig, Wacker,	Schubert, Lask near
      Lodz and Lubomirka,	Solomka and Berestowice near Kostopol
      (Marina und Henning Bettich)
   4. Re: Searching for Bettich, Bettig, Wacker,	Schubert, Lask
      near Lodz and Lubomirka,	Solomka and Berestowice near Kostopol
      (Jerry Frank)


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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 16:27:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: maireclare at aol.com
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] DNA testing for Family Tree
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This is not a German line but I had my cousin tested for the paternal line
and had an exact match of my grandfathers siblings line that immigrated form
Ireland to Pittsburgh. The family lore had him going to Pittsburgh in the
1850's but never heard anything again. The match was exact name, birthdate
and Pittsburg so the match gave us a follow up and I supplied the earlier
Ireland info to the cousins.

 Mary Klier


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 00:37:09 +0000 (UTC)
From: tomjess64 at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] FW: Re: KRUEGER + JESSE	from
	EduardoKommers
To: Edelgard Strobel <udo-edelgard at freenet.de>
Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
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Here is an interesting website with many names and pictures some might
recognize. 

http://www.cholmerland.de/152501.html 



Thomas Jess 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edelgard Strobel" <udo-edelgard at freenet.de> 
To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org 
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2010 2:58:41 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] FW: Re: KRUEGER + JESSE
from????????EduardoKommers 

Hi all, 

could this Jesse family fit to the Jeske family in my db? 

They appear as Jeske or Geske or Jesk in the SGGEE database: descendants of 
Kasimir Jeske and Anna Kristine Ferchow 

My data: 
-George Jeske * Of Siedliska, (Wladyslawow Parish) 
?ooUnbekannt 
|--2-Casimir Jeske * Ca. 1755, Of Siedliska, (Wladyslawow Parish), + 5 Sep 
| ? ?1831, Siedliska, Kolo, Polen 
| ? ooAnna Christina Ferchow * Of Zakrzewek, (Wladyslawow Parish), oo 30 Apr

| ? ?1785, Lipiny, (Wladyslawow Parish), par. Michael Ferchow and unknown 
--3-Johann Jeske * 4 Jul 1795, Siedliska, (Wladyslawow Parish), ~ 7 Jul 
| ?| ? ?1795, Babiak, (Wladyslawow Parish), + Nach 25 Nov. 1846 
| ?| ? ooAnna Rosina Schmidt * 1795, oo 1818, Debno Krolewskie, Kolo, 
Poland, + 
| ?| ? ?after 25 Nov. 1846 
|--4-August Jeske * 1820, Siedliska, Kolo, Poland, + 26 Nov. 1869, Olszak, 
| ?| ?| ? ?Babiak, Poland 
| ?| ?| ? ooAnna Rosina Manthey * 16 Apr 1819, Grabowiec, Kolo, Poland, oo 
25 
| ?| ?| ? ?Nov. 1840, Debno Krolewskie, Kolo, Poland, par. Johann Manthey 
and 
| ?| ?| ? ?Anna Katharina Liske 
----5-August Jeske * 8 Jun 1845, Czerniak, Kolo, Poland 
| ?| ?| ?| ? ooErnestine Neumann * 22 Mai 1848, Wierzelin, Konin, Poland, oo

20 
| ?| ?| ?| ? ?Nov. 1870, Babiak, Kolo, Polen, + 28 Apr 1878, par. Gottfried 
| ?| ?| ?| ? ?Neumann and Regina Siede 

Regards from Germany, 

Edelgard 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joyce Guasch" <jguasch at fastmail.net> 
To: <antje.mass at web.de>; <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org> 
Cc: "'Gutte'" <kolonist1978 at googlemail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 3:49 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] FW: Re: KRUEGER + JESSE from 
EduardoKommers 


Thank you very much Antje, 

This will help very much. This is the same Ludwig. His death certificate 
says he was born 17 Sept. 1879, although it says he was born in Babiak. It 
also states his father was August. I think we have a match here. Where were 
you able to obtain this information? 

Sandra and I thank you! 

Joyce Welke Guasch 
Springfield, Oregon USA 
Researching Welke, Gurke, Zimmerman 
Ratz, Pusch, Lentz, Arndt of East Poland 
Researching Lindley, Wisbey of US, Ireland and England. 
Researching Haner of US and Germany 






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Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 5:59 AM 
To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org 
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] FW: Re: KRUEGER + JESSE from Eduardo Kommers 

Sandra, 

The birth record says that Ludwig's parents are August Jesse and Ernestina 
Neumann. Ludwig was born in Olszak on 17/29 September, the record is from 
18/30 September. At this time it is said the his parents were 26 years/23 
years old. The record no. is 152. 

Hope this will help you. 

Antje 

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Gesendet: 30.10.2010 05:35:31 
An: Gutte <kolonist1978 at googlemail.com> 
Betreff: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] KRUEGER + JESSE from Eduardo Kommers 



Sandra, 



Unfortunately, the only information I have about Ludwig is his name on a 
hand drawn family tree. No other information. I recognize the name Gurke 
from research in that area, but have no definite proof. His childrens names 
are interesting/familiar. Time frames are very close, but it doesn't prove 
anything. I'm sure there is a relation there somewhere. 



Julianna jesse b?? 

wilhelm jesse b 1855 

August jesse b 1847 

wilhelmine jesse b 1852 

samuel Jesse b 1845 

ernestine jesse b 1880 

Ludwig Jesse b ? 





August, brother of ludwig came to the US in 1901 and moved to pennsylvania. 
I am in touch with his relatives. So its not unreasonable that ludwig also 
came to the states, if its the same ludwig. 



Thomas Jess 

Hillsborough NJ 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gutte" <kolonist1978 at googlemail.com> 
To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 3:19:11 PM 
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] KRUEGER + JESSE from Eduardo Kommers 

Dear Mr. Kommers, 
I have some details about Ludwig Jesse. But I don't know if it is the same 
person. 


Ludwig Jesse married Ottilie Gurke about 1896 in ...., Poland. Ludwig was 
born 17.09.1871 in Babyak, Poland, Russia ?? (lt. Standard Certificate of 
Death) and died on 02.03.1956 in Forest Grove, Washington, Oregon, USA about

age 85. They had six children: Louise, Natalie, August, Martha, Albert and 
Walter. 

Name of his father: August Jesse 

Name of his mother: no record 

Is it possible that it is the same person? 

Best regards 

Sandra Gutte 
Germany 


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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 03:31:19 +0000 (UTC) 
From: tomjess64 at comcast.net 
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Krueger 
To: Eduardo Kommers <eduardo.kommers at gmail.com> 
Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org 
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I think I have a few pieces of the puzzle that might help or I might make it


more confusing. 
I have an Andreas Jesse who married? Rosina Grams(b 1798-1800) 
6 children 
Rosina Jesse 
Martin Jesse 
Gottlieb Jesse 
Michael Jesse 
Johann Samuel Jesse 
Johann Gottfried Jesse 

Gottlieb Jesse married Eva Decker 1871 babiak poland 
7 Children 

Julianna Jesse 
Wilhelm Jesse 
August Jesse 
Wilhelmine Jesse 
Samuel Jesse 
Ernestine Jesse 
*Ludwig Jesse* 

now combine that with 

Samuel Krueger married Anna Dorothea Jeske 1841 babiak poland 
7 children 

Samuel Krueger b 1848 
Gottlieb Krueger b 1855 
Julius krueger b 1859 
Henrietta krueger b 1862 
Ernestine Krueger b 1845 
Renate Krueger b 1851 
August Krueger b 1842 

samuel krueger married wilhelmine jesse 1871 
7 children 
Henriette krueger 
Julius Krueger 
Pauline Krueger 
Alwine Krueger 
August Krueger' 
Julianne Krueger 
Eduard Krueger 


Pauline Krueger, I'm told, married a man named Bachmann and emmigrated to 
Brazil about 1930. 5 children, only 2 names known, leokadia bachmann and 
Irma (Erma) Bachmann. 
I've been trying to find any info on that branch of the family but have had 
no luck so far. Any help would be greatly appreciated. 

so there are familiar names and surnames, also places and dates. I have 
birth locations for most of the people, looks like the majority were born 
Kolo, Poland. 

I found a whole town of Kruegers in germany that looks to be related to me. 
I have been in contact with them and hope to visit soon. Its near Wernige 
Rode Wermany. 

I hope this helps someone. like I said, one big puzzle. 

Thomas Jess 
Hillsborough NJ 
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Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 08:16:10 +0100
From: "Marina und Henning Bettich" <henning.bettich at osnanet.de>
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Searching for Bettich, Bettig, Wacker,
	Schubert, Lask near Lodz and Lubomirka,	Solomka and Berestowice near
	Kostopol
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Hi everybody,

I'm searching for the names Bettich, cause my great-great-grandfather was
Valentin Bettich and he was born in Solomka, he married Christine Wacker and
died in Solomka. Valentzins father was also named Valentin and he married
Therese Schubert, my grandfather told me that they went from germany to
Volhynia over Lask near Lodz in Poland.

 

Valentins children also was named Bettich but some of the had the name
Bettig cause they couldn't write and read and so the volhynian church wrote
the names like they sound.

So my grandfather is Heinrich Bettich and my grandmother is Elfriede Bettig
.

 

It would be great to hear something about it. And I hope I could close the
great hole in the family tree before Valentin Bettich. Cause we didn't know
really where to search for Valentin, was Lask near Lodz really the right
town they went through and live some years, where from germany they came
nobody of our family really knows, my grandfather says that his grandparents
speak swabian dialect if the kids shouldn' know what they speak.. Maybe the
come from Swabia.

 

It would be great if there exist some old photos from the region from
Solomka, Lubomirka, Berestowice and Kostopol, so I can imagine how they
lived.

 

I would be happy about every little peace you know.

 

Henning Bettich

 

 

 



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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 07:40:53 -0700
From: Jerry Frank <FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Searching for Bettich, Bettig,
	Wacker,	Schubert, Lask near Lodz and Lubomirka,	Solomka and
	Berestowice near Kostopol
To: Marina und Henning Bettich <henning.bettich at osnanet.de>
Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
Message-ID: <d027e5cb73b5d.4cd65805 at shaw.ca>
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One branch of the Bettig family from Solomka migrated to the United States.?
They are involved in Baptist Church missions in Ukraine.? Apparently an
ancestor married a Ukrainian and they still have relatives who live in
Solomka.? They were part of the Volhynian German community that settled in
the Benton Harbor district of Michigan.? See:

http://markuswolf.blogspot.com/2007_06_01_archive.html

http://kosachukfamily.blogspot.com/2007/09/markus-wolf.html

http://www.churchgrowers.com/cisportal/AboutUs/VolunteerStaff/tabid/70/Defau
lt.aspx

I do not have a direct email address for this family but you can probably
arrange contact with them through their church at
http://www.napierchurch.org/ 

My maternal Hemminger family also lived at Solomka.? I too have searched for
old pictures of the region but have not found any.

Our databases shows a Valentin Bettich, son of Johann Bettich and Rosina
Diehle.? The information comes from Trinity Lutheran Parish in Lodz.? Johann
died at Lutka (now a suburb of Lodz) 21 May 1847 so Valentin would be born
before then.? Other siblings of Valentin include Maria, Josef, Johann,
Julius and Ida.? There is no other information about the family but
researching the microfilms of this parish available through the LDS might
get you further results.


Jerry Frank



----- Original Message -----
From: Marina und Henning Bettich <henning.bettich at osnanet.de>
Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010 1:23 am
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Searching for Bettich, Bettig, Wacker,
Schubert, Lask near Lodz and Lubomirka,	Solomka and Berestowice near
Kostopol
To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org

> Hi everybody,
> 
> I'm searching for the names Bettich, cause my great-great-
> grandfather was
> Valentin Bettich and he was born in Solomka, he married 
> Christine Wacker and
> died in Solomka. Valentzins father was also named Valentin and 
> he married
> Therese Schubert, my grandfather told me that they went from 
> germany to
> Volhynia over Lask near Lodz in Poland.
> 
> ?
> 
> Valentins children also was named Bettich but some of the had 
> the name
> Bettig cause they couldn't write and read and so the volhynian 
> church wrote
> the names like they sound.
> 
> So my grandfather is Heinrich Bettich and my grandmother is 
> Elfriede Bettig
> .
> 
> ?
> 
> It would be great to hear something about it. And I hope I could 
> close the
> great hole in the family tree before Valentin Bettich. Cause we 
> didn't know
> really where to search for Valentin, was Lask near Lodz really 
> the right
> town they went through and live some years, where from germany 
> they came
> nobody of our family really knows, my grandfather says that his 
> grandparentsspeak swabian dialect if the kids shouldn' know what 
> they speak.. Maybe the
> come from Swabia.
> 
> ?
> 
> It would be great if there exist some old photos from the region from
> Solomka, Lubomirka, Berestowice and Kostopol, so I can imagine 
> how they
> lived.
> 
> ?
> 
> I would be happy about every little peace you know.
> 
> ?
> 
> Henning Bettich
> 
> ?
> 
> ?
> 
> ?
> 
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