[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] DNA at 23andMe
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Sat Sep 24 22:07:29 PDT 2011
Otto encouraged me to do the test and 25 days after sending in my sample
the results arrived [two weeks ago] by email. The comments by Otto and
Earl are appreciated as they are a big help in my learning process. The
mentioned Relative Finder with 258 potential cousins has resulted in my
receiving several emails from people sharing the same haplogroup. One contact
being from Southern Manitoba [Winkler, Morden] where the Jess/Rode family
landed in 1902. His type is the closest to me of the potential cousins. This
contact shows what Earl mentions in his last paragraph below re more of us
in our Society doing this. I pointed this man to our site as he is not a
member and was wondering about help as he is struggling with research in
The disease risk and carrier status are of more than a passing interest to
me. I plan to summarize this and pass it on to my three siblings.
I just read Karl's comments and it looks like we are in for more exciting
developments down the road.
Beth, my Jess family had several events at a village 25 miles straight
west of Lublin.
Poland - Anejewo/Bielsko (west of Lublin) Chmielewo/
Volhynia - Julianowka/Karlswalde/Satyjew/Shinufka/
In a message dated 9/24/2011 2:58:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
Earl.Schultz at telusplanet.net writes:
I will try to answer some of the questions I've received. I have
used their services last year and I have also use Sorenson/Genetree for my
y-DNA and mt-DNA. Otto Schienke is another user but I do not know of
else. 23andMe sequences about 500,000 SNPs on all 23 chromosomes and the
mt-DNA. Males will receive their maternal and paternal haplogroups;
their maternal haplogroup. That information includes a history of the
haplogroup so that you have some idea of where your ancestors spent their
time in the last 100,000 years after leaving Africa. In addition, they
a Relative Finder service which will identify people with a high
match on the 500K SNPs and provides that they may be a 3rd or 4th cousin or
more. I have 236 potential cousins of which Otto was one of the highest
matches but I now have many who are higher. You can invite these people to
share genomes which you can then compare with another click of the mouse.
For example the highest percentage match I have is about 76.5% with a woman
from Poland. That means that 76.5% of the SNPs tested are identical. I
have yet to find someone that we can prove a relationship on paper. Most
people are likely to be 4th or 5th cousins or more which means the
connection is somewhere around the great-great-great-great-grandparents and
while you may know who that is you may not have all the families descended
from that person...you won't necessary know which of the 4ggrandparents it
Is it worth doing? In my opinion, just the haplogroup information is worth
the cost. If more people from Dobriner Land participate then I will have
closer matches than I have currently found. The value of DNA comes from
more participants so if everyone waits until it is more valuable then it
will never be valuable.
With regard to the medical benefits, you also receive on the website a list
of whether you are at higher, lower or normal risk of certain diseases,
This is interesting but having a higher risk doesn't mean that you will get
the disease. I think if I was at higher risk of say Type II diabetes then
it may encourage me to alter my lifestyle. Personally, I am at 3X higher
risk of Exfoliation Glaucoma and I mentioned this to my opthamologist who
thanked me for that and said that she would monitor me for that. Other
arthritis, I'm at normal risk for most serious things. This is also worth
sharing with your family so that others can be on guard.
I've always said that if we could get a high percentage of SGGEE members to
do this then we would have a much more valuable database to aid our
genealogical research. When it is just the general public in the database
then there is not a lot of benefit for anyone, except for the haplogroup
From: Beth Burke [mailto:mackzie at earthlink.net]
Sent: September 24, 2011 1:04 PM
To: 'Earl.Schultz'; ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
Subject: RE: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] DNA at 23andMe
Earl and Fellow SGGEE Members:
How many of you have personally used this company for DNA testing? Were
satisfied with the results? If you found out that you are at a higher risk
for certain diseases, did you then consult with your physician?
Additionally, have any of you who have a connection to the Lublin area have
had this done?
Researching: Zellmer, Glor, Hammermeister, Friedrich, Lieske/Liske,
From: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org
[mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf Of
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 11:57 PM
To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] DNA at 23andMe
I want to let everyone know that www.23andMe.com is having a sale on DNA
autosomal testing for $99 plus $9/mo. for 1 year. This goes beyond the
y-DNA and mt-DNA and is a much better test especially for females who
do the y-DNA test themselves. The autosomal test looks at all ancestral
lines and not just paternal and maternal.
I especially want to encourage anyone from Dobriner Land (Torun to
Rypin/Lipno) to take this test so that we can get a number of people from
this area to compare to.
This test also provides information on your risks for certain diseases
can be quite interesting.
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