[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] geography assistance: "Gruec"?

Albert Muth albertmuth734 at gmail.com
Sun Jul 29 14:57:07 PDT 2012

Borowiec at 52°01' N 18°24' E comes to mind.  It is about 35 km
NE of Kalisz.  And was in the gubernia. Closest to Turek Lutheran.

Figure out the time frame for the brothers and sisters first
before you go after records for your gr-grandfather.


On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Craig Schiller <craigbear at gmail.com> wrote:

> A bit of followup: after I posted my Gruec question this morning, a
> relative of mine sent me some documents I didn't previously have, and
> they change things considerably. My great-grandfather's Canadian
> naturalization certificate does indeed list his birthplace as "Gruec",
> but that would obviously have been typed up by a Canadian office clerk
> -- so thanks to George for the "greetings" theory, because in light of
> what I'm about to add, that suddenly feels extremely plausible after
> all.
> I was also provided with a copy of his confirmation certificate. It
> has a birthplace on it. That birthplace does not say "Gruec" or
> anything even close to it. I can't entirely make out exactly what it
> does say (scanned copy of a photocopy of a photocopy of a 19th-century
> document, you know the score), but what it does look like as far as I
> can tell is "Borowitz something something" (the second something could
> certainly be Kalisz, but I can't make heads or tails of the first
> something.) And the document is annotated at the bottom as having been
> filed in Rozhische, so wherever he was actually born they were clearly
> living in the Lutsk area by the time my great-grandfather was a
> teenager.
> So instead of "Gruec", does the place name Borowitz (or something
> similar to it) make sense to anyone in relation to Kalisz -- or in
> relation to the Kalusz that's much closer to Lviv and Rozhische?
> In the meantime, I'm going to sit here and wonder why nobody else ever
> noticed this before.
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