[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] German Prussians vs German Russians

LINDASUSAK at comcast.net LINDASUSAK at comcast.net
Sat Sep 14 07:15:08 PDT 2013

In my family, Vistula Germans, before they moved to Russian Poland sometime after 1860s, the difference was between Catholic and Lutheran. The 
people married each other or people from other German villages. It was a great "sin" to marry a Pole because he/she was Catholic. One sibling of my grandmother did this, and the family never spoke to him again. He was totally ostracized from the community. 

----- Original Message -----
From: Krampetz at aol.com 
To: hoeserhistory at aol.com, ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:56:29 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] German Prussians vs German Russians 

There are two kinds of Germans from Russia too.. 
Those that were from Russia (Volhynia) and 
Those from Poland, who gave Russia as their home. 
-because they were told they were Russian sometime after 1854(?) 

In a message dated 09/12/13 09:40:07 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
hoeserhistory at aol.com writes: 

My four German grandparents all settled in the Dakotahs. 

Two of my grandparents' families were from Prussia, one from Russia, and 
one from Switzerland. As late as the 1940s, I remember both Prussian 
families telling their girls that they could NOT date those Russian boys! The 
"German" families did not want to mingle with the "Russian" families. Not at 
barn dances, not at church. 

The German Swiss family? They didn't want their children to date either 
Russians OR Norwegians!! One of their sons loved a Norwegian, and the Swiss 
parents would NOT let them marry. They ultimately did, but had to separate 
at the court house. 

When my German Swiss grandfather wanted to marry my German Russian 
grandmother, the parents again tried to intervene. This time it didn't work. The 
couple left SD to farm in ND, where they lived happily ever after until 

And then my mother did it. She married a German from Russia, which was 
generally frowned upon in ND even in the 1930s. She often times insulted him 
for his background, but pretty much lived happily ever after. 

Me? I married a half German, some French, rest Scotch/English/Irish with 
maybe even a little Am. Indian in there - 60 years ago, so guess we lived 
"happily ever after". :) Our children skipped school on "Family Tree" days! 

hoeserhistory at aol.com 

These stats may not be interesting to all, but I found them quite 
interesting myself: 
I recently read that ND and SD had more Germans settlers than any other 
states with MN not too far behind. Today, South Dakota is 40% German, and 
southern central part of North Dakota was known as "the German-Russian 
triangle". North Dakota registered the highest number percentage of German 
immigrants in 1910 for the mid states at 18 percent. 
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