[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] names in 1827 marriage Polish Napoleonic record

Gerald Klatt gerald.klatt at shaw.ca
Wed May 21 21:23:33 PDT 2014

Hi Mauricio

I know what Linda is saying about the genetive 'a' ending on male and female given names, but I doubt that is the case here. I say this because the use 'a' ending on several obvious male names in this particular marriage entry. The following names all appear in the marriage entry and it's unlikely they are female - the latter two appear with that spelling ahead of their repective spouses. 

Jana (=Johann)
Josefa (=Josef)

Also, rare for a midwife to appear on a marriage entry, more common on birth entry when child is illegimate and father is not available to present the child to the pastor. On a marriage entry they usually only name the mother if the groom or bride was an illegimate birth, or father 'unknown'.

The scribe of this marriage entry typically closes the 'g' at the top. In this case I believe it is correct as 'Skoszewskiej', because the letter is open on top, not closed. Also, Skoszewskiej exists on search engines, Skoszewskieg does not. I realise there's no dot over the 'j' like in our modern alphabet, but I find that when it looks like our modern j, it's typically the letter 'y' or 'i', with a long tail. An example of this in this particular marriage entry is the word 'Koloni'(=colony), it appears as Kolonj, but I believe that 'j-like' letter it their 'i' or 'y' and we have either koloni or kolony.

Hope this helps,



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Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] names in 1827 marriage Polish Napoleonic	record

For Mauricio Norenberg (Polish Napoleonic marriage record, as translated by Gerald Klatt), please see my comments below.  I do not read Polish, but I have studied old German handwriting for a few years, so here is my interpretation of handwritten names in my underlined comments below:

17. Glogowiec

It came to pass in the village of Skoszewack(?) -- Shoszewach or Shosuwach?
on 14 November 1827 at one o'clock in the afternoon in the presence of witnesses:
Bogumila (=Gottlieb) -- Bogumill also = Theodore [per website http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Polish_given_names], but this name is Bogumila, possibly female, Theodora [maybe a midwife?]
Sternack (or Hernack?), --This is an 'H' [not an 'S' as compared to the 'S' of the 'Sl' with line through letter 'l' at start of line 18], but surname looks more like HERZACH to me

 [occupation=?], age forty-two residing in colony Glogowiec,
Jana(=Johann) Szuka? --possibly SZUBA or SZUHA?, (occupation=) smith, residing in colony Glogowiec, age twenty-four.

Accomplished on this day was a religious marriage between Janem(=Johann) Nerimbergem (=Nerimberg), bachelor residing colony Glogowiec and born to Josefa?(=Josef) and [wife] -- Elsab. [=Elsabein? -- name begins the same as the 'E' in name Elzbiety]
Kxxsz(ow), -- maiden surname KUSSROW, or possibly KURSZOW or KUZSROW married couple named Nerimberg(ow); age, twenty-eight.


maiden Anna Reicz(?) -- Anna RIECZ or REIEN [note: I have seen an 'EN' ending on German surnames in church records from Poland area, with a dropped 'n', the 'EN' ending used on surnames for females -- it could indicate a previously married surname since it does not match the parents' surname]
born to Macieja(=Matthias) and Elibity -- Elzbiety, or Elzbieta (=Elisabeth), a married couple named Schindler(ow)
of colony Glogowiec residing; age, twenty-three; in colony Slowik(?) -- [Slowik has a line through the 'l'] born and ....???

...marriage preceeded by three announcements (banns) on days:
twenty-eight October; fourth and eleventh November in the current year in parish Skoszewskiej Skoszewskieg

....permission for marriage given parents of newlywed bride ..... and newlywed groom....

This entry read to the witnesses (likely could not read or write) and signed by:
Anteni Kraszenski, Pastor parish Skoszewskiej Skoszewskieg [not a 'j' at the end, but a 'g']

Hope somehow this helps!
Linda in Wisconsin

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