[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] where is Heimthal and what is modern name
franklyspeaking at shaw.ca
Thu Sep 12 17:25:54 PDT 2013
1. Heimtal has been variously known as Staraja Buda (or Huta), Karolinowka and the modern Jasinowka / Yasinivka. Coordinates on Google Maps are 50.572063,28.189702
2. I have never known of any Heimtal recorded in the Lutsk region though you are correct that there is a Jasinowka / Jasienowka in that area.
3. Hermann and Louise are in the St. Pete database with at least two, probably 3 children recorded there. The third one does not show the mother's name. They are living in or in the region of Heimtal. There are no Bondermann in the St. Pete records. There are also no Bondermann in our other databases. Without a location or at least a region, it is difficult to recommend where to look.
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From: "Charlotte Dubay" <hoeserhistory at aol.com>
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Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 5:50:09 PM
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] where is Heimthal and what is modern name
Hello, Years ago this mailing list gave me much help. My thanks to you all. I am again lost.
QUESTION ONE: What is the modern day name of Heimthal, Zhitomir, Russia? Is it located NW of Zhitomir or NW of Novohrad-Volhynsk? If you have the lat/long coordinates, that would be so helpful. Or web sites that hold some information re: Heimthal. Thank you!
I have 2 differing facts in my own writings:
"Heimthal is now called Jasinowka and is located 40 miles NW of Luts'k in oblast Volyn."
"Heimthal is now called Jasinowka and is located NW of Zhitomir in oblast Zhitomir."
I am quite certain that Jasinowka is indeed NW of Luts'k about 40 miles.
Jasinowka: Latitude 50.983333 / 50° 58' 59.9988" Longitude 24.95 / 24° 56' 59.9994" Province Volyns'ka Oblast'
And I am quite certain that my grandmother in Heimthal, was not just 40 mi. from Luts'k, where other family members lived.
Since Heimthal is in Zhitomir, that would prove that Heimthal is NOT called Jasinowka in modern day.
I DREAD TO SAY THAT I THINK I HAVE MADE A BIG MISTAKE IN THE LOCATION and NAME OF modern day HEIMTHAL! Any input would be appreciated.
QUESTION TWO, if I may:
My ggrandfather Herman Ho(e)ser married Louise Weichman (mother=Bonderman) and baptized 9 children in Lutheran parishes in and near Heimthal. Subsequently they emigrated from Heimthal. I am looking for Louise's mother's family members - Bonderman, and am searching both Christian and Jewish records. I had found no records in the past, searching St Pet church/Heimthal/JewGen/Russian town records - all from the comfort of my home. (I don't live near a LDS library.) Any ideas re: where to look?
Thank you all for any help that you can give me,
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